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anna_grin said:well, i look forward to it, and I’ll give no further explanation today x

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lepperochan said:https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/499065-lies-damned-lies-and-the-truth-about-joe-biden?amp



theres a plethora of claims here by the Hill. I dunno if the Hill is a Republican publish, but the claims may have merit nonetheless


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anna_grin said:

oh, your criticism of the source is quite valid, but to counter i would say that nothing in it appears as an outright falsehood, and while it may not be very relevant to the Joe Biden of today, it is good to take our leaders off pedestals sometimes.

people play devil’s advocate for any number of reasons. in some sense it’s a thankless job.  

right that’s enough of my thoughts, carry on carry on x





Hullo. I went through them last night and couldnt find on claim which was false. I was using a phone so I didn't catalogue my progress. I am confident no one will find a lie within the piece


I think posting it here was more than relevant to the thread. but more than that is more than relevant to today's administration



Clearly, the evidence shows the man has lied consistently to 'the people' from as far back as 1987 up until 2019. hes been caught cheeting in university (plagiarized 5 pages ) and having been caught doing that STILL plagerized Neil Kinnock's  speech and "family stories" decades later. he lied about being an activist, lied about getting arrested trying to visit Nelson Mandela...

This is serious stuff whether It was Trump or Biden or indeed any leader of a country.

anyhow. thanks for the space, Anna. I didnt realize it was an opinion piece til after I posted, I think the woman was pretty spot on.





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i didn’t say there was a lie. i said there wasn’t.

you’re welcome, and yes, it is relevant to bidens character in the past, it may not be as relevant today or for his current politics, but still, worthwhile points.

if im to keep to my mandate of no in depth debate on the thread I’ll have to say no more but you’re welcome to take it into the hellholes of the other threads and see how it fares there

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Haha, no thanks :),    

(wasnt implying you said there was a lie, just that I couldnt find any )

thanks again. exit stage left

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/opinion/sunday/trump-election-fraud.amp.html

an opinion piece exploring why the “big lie” of the election being “stolen” from trump has taken such a grasping foothold in America.

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once again, drone, your post does not follow my guidelines. feel free to edit it to comply. some links would be a good start along with an explanation of what misinformation you are addressing.

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anna_grin said:i didn’t say there was a lie. i said there wasn’t.

you’re welcome, and yes, it is relevant to bidens character in the past, it may not be as relevant today or for his current politics, but still, worthwhile points.

if im to keep to my mandate of no in depth debate on the thread I’ll have to say no more but you’re welcome to take it into the hellholes of the other threads and see how it fares there


I just wanted to comment, but not without backing it up. He never should have run after 1988.


I think it’s crazy he even made it this last time. (Primaries must’ve been rigged. Bernie said so.)

https://time.com/5636715/biden-1988-presidential-campaign/

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edible, again, again, you are inciting debate, which this thread is not for, please, by all means take the information and put it in your poxy little thread but is it so hard for you to not be irritating

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anyone wanting to chat about this latest please do so somewhere else, thank you, goodnight

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anna_grin said:edible, again, again, you are inciting debate, which this thread is not for, please, by all means take the information and put it in your poxy little thread but is it so hard for you to not be irritating

Fact checking *myself,* since I don’t want to stir controversy, just trying to follow the topic...

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/bernie-sanders-2016-rigged-wont-pledge-support-winner.html

Technically he said that in the primary before last...

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that’s all very well, but it’s a wee bit old news and you are still inserting your personal opinion when you have been expressly asked to keep it out of here.

keep your second post, your first is not only nothing to do with the second it’s not following the guidelines and clearly an attempt to steer the thread in your preferred direction, which is senseless back and forth evasive debate.

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anna_grin said:that’s all very well, but it’s a wee bit old news and you are still inserting your personal opinion when you have been expressly asked to keep it out of here.

keep your second post, your first is not only nothing to do with the second it’s not following the guidelines and clearly an attempt to steer the thread in your preferred direction, which is senseless back and forth evasive debate.


I’m sorry, I thought I was within the standard amount of talking room and NO
I wasn’t trying to stir the pot. I thought were discussing facts which have no other particular thread for them.

If I erase the first the second will make no sense!

Besides, you are not holding me to the same standard as others. I see it. 🙄

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EdibleWords said:

I’m sorry, I thought I was within the standard amount of talking room and NO
I wasn’t trying to stir the pot. I thought were discussing facts which have no other particular thread for them.

If I erase the first the second will make no sense!

Besides, you are not holding me to the same standard as others. I see it. 🙄


i am. to spell it out for you, you expressed an opinion about “Biden never should have run”. you then tenuously linked it to some 2019 hassle about Bernie claiming primaries were rigged against him in an attempt to imply that primaries were rigged for Biden also.

that’s why your second post doesn’t make sense without the first- because the connection makes no sense in and of itself.

you are not discussing veracity of sources. you did not initially present a claim and debunk it. and you know very well what you are doing. i explain, not for you, but for those who would pass by and assume without context that i am being unnecessarily harsh.

cease & desist, please and thank you

edit: this thread is also not your offload ground for “facts that have no other particular thread for them”. check the title and the guidelines. again. and try to recall the conversation we had previously about the same damn thing

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