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Bluevelvete
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Ingredients said:

So you cannot be being in love?


I initially responded to BW...
(but dropped it after a few bouts)
~~I'm a lover not a fighter... lol ~~
I love Val and BW but I'm absolute in my opinion. That love and submission can and do go hand in hand. I would NEVER have had the experience I've had, as a submissive without it.
Maybe that's just me, my personal opinion and how my own heart and soul operate. There's nothing wrong with that. Differing opinions are fine. I only spoke out because I got a sense of
'your wrong in how you feel'...
Usually I just post beautiful dark sexy shit... lol
💜
My 2cents
Hopefully we can breathe and make nice...
Or I'll just continue to post art until we do
hahahaha
🌹🖤

Ingredients
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Valeriyabeyond said:

Love is an emotion when one is in a state of being
To serve a Dom to love a Dom you must first love yourself enough to die to self by using self control
What you are doing is surrendering your ego and relinquishing your resistance over  to complete self control
It is growth not flowery love


So you love yourself, but not your Dom. So every D/S relationship is just hot kinky sex even between people who love each other? We're not saying every relationship is love vanilla or not. But it can be. BlackWolf said over and over that submission cannot and never will be love.

Valeriyabeyond
Dhyana
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Ingredients said:

Am I being a smartass? You literally gave me definitions....? Here is what you told me? Why am I a dick because I wanted to ask her first?


Did you see this
How is that calling you a dick ?
I think you may need a sandwich and a nap
Maybe an expression of love would help

Valeriyabeyond
Dhyana
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Ingredients said:

So you love yourself, but not your Dom. So every D/S relationship is just hot kinky sex even between people who love each other? We're not saying every relationship is love vanilla or not. But it can be. BlackWolf said over and over that submission cannot and never will be love.


To be submissive or in service it is being who you are it is not acting out
It is revealing your true self without limitations through self control
You may love someone but to submit is not love

Ingredients
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Bluevelvete said:
Maybe that's just me, my personal opinion and how my own heart and soul operate. There's nothing wrong with that. Differing opinions are fine. I only spoke out because I got a sense of
'your wrong in how you feel'...
Usually I just post beautiful dark sexy shit... lol
💜
My 2cents
Hopefully we can breathe and make nice...
Or I'll just continue to post art until we do
hahahaha
🌹🖤


This is my point here. To say your relationship cannot be this way is counter-intuitive to what we should believe. The moment you start believing something HAS to be this way is to be close-minded and misunderstand that there are so many different ways to experience anything. How can you say "I believe this can only be this way" when you have experienced the innumerable ways which things can be?

Ingredients
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Valeriyabeyond said:

Did you see this
How is that calling you a dick ?
I think you may need a sandwich and a nap
Maybe an expression of love would help


What do you think a smartass is equivalent to? Are you really going to focus on one word and ignore your own?

Valeriyabeyond
Dhyana
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To express live you are acting on an emotion
Emotions are included in the role of the sub
love is one of them but
You do not submit because you love your Dom

Ingredients
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Valeriyabeyond said:

Did you see this
How is that calling you a dick ?
I think you may need a sandwich and a nap
Maybe an expression of love would help


Do you understand how you are attempting to enforce one set of rules then, but then ignoring them now?

Ingredients
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But of course, you never give an actual answer... because you have none... *sigh*....

Bluevelvete
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Ingredients said:

This is my point here. To say your relationship cannot be this way is counter-intuitive to what we should believe. The moment you start believing something HAS to be this way is to be close-minded and misunderstand that there are so many different ways to experience anything. How can you say "I believe this can only be this way" when you have experienced the innumerable ways which things can be?



I'm not arguing a point I think for myself personally.
I believe that submission is not void of love.
That a Dom /s dynamic can be a loving one
and for me that's what I prefer.

If you look back at the start of this thread, I interjected with that opinion... hours ago.

If someone else believes different that's fine.
Their belief, doesn't negate my own.
—is my point


Ingredients
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2/08/2019

(you said i was a gift, the universe owed you one)    
   
cover my eyes with daisies,    
make me feel like i'm choking on daffodils    
say "thank you; you may have her back now"
 
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Umm said:
This was supposed to be dark-ish. Perhaps one of my all time faves 🖤


Anyway I am done arguing about this. It's just useless. This one woman needed a comment. If anyone is willing.

Ingredients
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Bluevelvete said:


I'm not arguing a point I think for myself personally.
I believe that submission is not void of love.
That a Dom /s dynamic can be a loving one
and for me that's what I prefer.

If you look back at the start of this thread, I interjected with that opinion... hours ago.

If someone else believes different that's fine.
Their belief, doesn't negate my own.
—is my point



I didn't, I was agreeing with you. Read what I said more carefully please. I was using your point to help our cause not hurt it. I wasn't talking directly to you.

Ingredients
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I'll do better in the future to make sure it isn't as hard to understand.

Bluevelvete
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Ingredients said:

I didn't, I was agreeing with you. Read what I said more carefully please. I was using your point to help our cause not hurt it. I wasn't talking directly to you.


I read it,
I assure you
Getting lost amongst the ping ponging... is all.
So you know, I'm not used to being pushed like this here (and I'm only speaking for myself)
I don't ever engage like this, so when I'm taken aback by harshness it's just me being me.
Flustered... lol
Like I said, lover not a fighter
I write poems, post pussy flowers (love flowers that look like pussy.... yes, it hardly needed an explanation) and lurk in the shadows...
That's me, 98% of the time.
To clarify.
💜 🌠💜

Ingredients
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Bluevelvete said:

I read it,
I assure you
Getting lost amongst the ping ponging... is all.
So you know, I'm not used to being pushed like this here (and I'm only speaking for myself)
I don't ever engage like this, so when I'm taken aback by harshness it's just me being me.
Flustered... lol
Like I said, lover not a fighter
I write poems, post pussy flowers (love flowers that look like pussy.... yes, it hardly needed an explanation) and lurk in the shadows...
That's me, 98% of the time.
To clarify.
💜 🌠💜


I'm a lover and a fighter. That just makes me Lighter.

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