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Behind The Wall of Government  Election 2020

Wh1skeySwagger
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Honesty time for swagger, I do not find a firearm offensive and have carried one responsibly going on 30 years now almost daily. I am actually quite comfortable with them, and definitely more comfortable when it is on my side. I carry concealed, and if you did not hug me would have no idea it was even there.

Everybody has a an opinion, and this is one of those subjects that opinions run strong with, I understand that. We have rights to opinions, and to express them, however we do not have a right to not be offended. Being offended is just part of life that we have to accept. Hell i am probably offended at least 5 times a day if not more, but i go about my business still respecting ones opinion whether it offends me or not.

I respect you BW but, to say there can be no argument, this i do not understand. To say that there can be no argument would imply everybody would think the same which would imply that there can be no individualism, or free thought.

This is one of those hard lines drawn in the sand that will never be erased, and we can debate all day and night and we would both walkaway thinking the same as we do right now.

I saw above where BW said a knife is okay, and although a knife can be a deadly instrument, when it comes to me and those i love, I will always choose the weapon that gives me the best chance of coming out on top. it is not about a fair fight, its about winning the fight to live another day. If you show up for a fair fight, you did not show up prepared.

As for Kyle Rittenhouse

Being at that riot after curfew broke the law - charge him
Possession of a firearm by a minor - charge him
But I watched that footage live as it went down and also many times after from different phones and cameras, angles, and perspectives, and what i saw was somebody defending them self from aggressors. the three that were shot (all by Kyle best i was able to tell) were both, verbally and physically threatening his life, he had a tool to prevent this and he he used it. should he have been there ... no, should he have had the rifle ... no, but what he did do is save his own life, he defended himself. He also only shot the three that were immediate threats to him ... Shot # 1 was at a man who was threatening him in a parking lot down the block and then chased Kyle as he tried to first run away from the aggressor and avoid confrontation, the aggressor was not shot until he caught up with Kyle and he could no longer get away ... shot # 2 & 3 were at an aggressor that was repeatedly pummeling him in the head with a skateboard ... shot # 4 was at another aggressor who drew a pistol and intended fully to do him harm. I will say this, Kyle did show extreme discipline in the deployment of the firearm to eliminate only what was a direct threat to him, he only deployed the firearm when he was caught by the first guy he was running from, and after the threats were neutralized he stopped and withdrew himself from the situation. I do not understand why after repeatedly trying to turn himself in at the end of the block he was literally ignored by the cops, this part here makes no sense. There was talk of a few cops saying something to one of the militia leaders along the lines of we are going to push the protestors to you guys and let you deal with them (this is where the conspiracy Val speaks of comes in).

I am honestly on the fence, there is definitely laws broken, but to me there is a huge gray area when it comes to the most egregious of the charges.  did he shoot them, absolutely, did he kill two people absolutely, should he have been there no, did he defend his own life absolutely, if he did not use the rifle would he have at a minimum been beaten to a hospitalized state by the first aggressor if not killed ... I honestly believe he would have, did Kyle Rittenhouse fear for his own life ... i have no doubt, regardless of all this are they going to run this kid through the ringer ... I believe they are, does he deserve to be ... this is where i am on the fence.



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We can disagree , Whiskey , just do not come
on my property I am living on , carrying a gun ,
or there will be a problem , even if you were
choosing to defend me...

I not only have knives , from long swords to
throwing blades , I know how to use them ,
and can take someone out at a distance...

Bullets shot from guns ?

Cheating , as far as I am concerned...

A fair fight is what it should be...

I care little for who ultimately wins...

Yet , we are all different...I respect that...

But carrying a weapon , brazenly , in public ?

That person better not set foot in my neighborhood...

I have never backed down from a gun...and never will

Pull a samurai sword on me...yeah , I just might have a second thought...;)

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Val I think it was defensive. He responded to a distress call from a friend to go there.

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Blackwolf said:Being there with a weapon , especially a firearm is OFFENSIVE...

There can be no argument...it is reality

And I not only hope he is prosecuted , I hope someone shoots him in prison...


A sword/knife as a weapon is  illegal some places. Even a taser or pepper spray, in New York.

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What's  Behind
The doors of the Government
of the politicians
of our
elected officials
when one looks
when one
does a little research
both sides
are the same
Profit
gaining an advantage
gaining influance
grabbing
immoral opportunities
coz there be profit
greed blackmail
a puppet smile
explaining
why
the promises given
no longer apply
maybe it's just me
but what i find
Strange
is that there is
no group
protesting
on the streets
Demanding
that these
wannabe
elected officials
should be tested
to see
if they are
fit for office
these people
should be tested
They hold the wellbeing
of our life's
and our children's future
in their hands
And yet
there are no groups
demanding this
to me
It's Strange
Why is that
coz if this was
made law
everything
would change













Valeriyabeyond
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drone said:What's  Behind
The doors of the Government
of the politicians
of our
elected officials
when one looks
when one
does a little research
both sides
are the same
Profit
gaining an advantage
gaining influance
grabbing
immoral opportunities
coz there be profit
greed blackmail
a puppet smile
explaining
why
the promises given
no longer apply
maybe it's just me
but what i find
Strange
is that there is
no group
protesting
on the streets
Demanding
that these
wannabe
elected officials
should be tested
to see
if they are
fit for office
these people
should be tested
They hold the wellbeing
of our life's
and our children's future
in their hands
And yet
there are no groups
demanding this
to me
It's Strange
Why is that
coz if this was
made law
everything
would change














Good points Drone
And it's very good to be reading your post here

The people are in a tribal mode a setting that comforts their feelings of confusion, control and change
We are normally predisposed to choose sides always complaining but never standing up to the face of authority
The protestors began
The riots continue

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Valeriyabeyond said:

Good points Drone
And it's very good to be reading your post here

The people are in a tribal mode a setting that comforts their feelings of confusion, control and change
We are normally predisposed to choose sides always complaining but never standing up to the face of authority
The protestors began
The riots continue


I would Love
to say your wrong
but your right
All those People
who protest
sitting comfortable
in their homes
and those
on the streets
IT Amazes me
those who are good
at speaking
and who organize
these protests
not one of these people
are forming a protest
to demand
that the
wanna be elected officials
be Tested
to see
if they are fit
for office
because if no one
demands this
Nothing will change



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drone said:

I would Love
to say your wrong
but your right
All those People
who protest
sitting comfortable
in their homes
and those
on the streets
IT Amazes me
those who are good
at speaking
and who organize
these protests
not one of these people
are forming a protest
to demand
that the
wanna be elected officials
be Tested
to see
if they are fit
for office
because if no one
demands this
Nothing will change




The lions share their kill
we the cattle
Useless eaters
Picked off and culled from ivory towers

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Carpe_Noctem said:

The lions share their kill
we the cattle
Useless eaters
Picked off and culled from ivory towers


*Useless eaters*

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EdibleWords said:Val I think it was defensive. He responded to a distress call from a friend to go there.

And were his *friends* the same kind of underage
idiots , and shit stirrers as he was , or were they
worse ?

Why did they have to call him ?

Did they get themselves in trouble , or just desire to
stir up trouble by being there in the first place ?

Were they also breaking laws by being armed ,
especially in public ?

Were they legally entitled to own a weapon ?

Or were they just shit stirrers , illegally choosing to incite violence ?

Do not just use a blanket statement , to hide truth...

Give *EVERY* detail , and I shall check , and counter it...

*THAT* is one of the main problems , with those who
try to subvert truth...they hide the reality under one
sentence of false statement , from some right wing website...

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Blackwolf said:

And were his *friends* the same kind of underage
idiots , and shit stirrers as he was , or were they
worse ?

Why did they have to call him ?

Did they get themselves in trouble , or just desire to
stir up trouble by being there in the first place ?

Were they also breaking laws by being armed ,
especially in public ?

Were they legally entitled to own a weapon ?

Or were they just shit stirrers , illegally choosing to incite violence ?

Do not just use a blanket statement , to hide truth...

Give *EVERY* detail , and I shall check , and counter it...

*THAT* is one of the main problems , with those who
try to subvert truth...they hide the reality under one
sentence of false statement , from some right wing website...


The distressed person was friend in a car dealership they were trying to burn down.

So they failed but walked to another car lot and gas station, where they started chasing him after he put out a dumpster fire they shoved into a building at the gas station.  

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Proof of everything you claim , easily accessed , as well , why was his friend
in a car dealership in that neighborhood , when this was going on ?

Give full details on an easily accessed , not subvert website , that fucks with
one's computer , and I shall investigate further ...

However , I do not believe , or currently trust your information presented...

Do know...I care for you , yet do not agree with you...

I feel you are dreadfully misled by the radical right , by reading their pages ...

To your great detriment , just as those on Q Anon , which I know the truth of...

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In the Fox News appearance, Pierce said that the night of the shootings, Rittenhouse and some friends were cleaning graffiti from a high school in Kenosha when they got a call from a business owner with three businesses, two of which had been burned.

The owner "wanted to protect what was left of his life's work and so he asked for help," Pierce said, and "Kyle and his friends" decided they "would answer that call and that nobody was doing anything to protect that community and they decided they would answer that call and protect that business."


https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2020/09/03/kenosha-car-dealer-denies-he-asked-gunmen-protect-his-business/5705974002/

Now the article also points out that the dealer disavowed anything like that but also said hes broke scared and people want to leave. So you trust a scared rabbit to be honest with mean press people?

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EdibleWords said:

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/crime/2020/09/03/kenosha-car-dealer-denies-he-asked-gunmen-protect-his-business/5705974002/

Now the article also points out that the dealer disavowed anything like that but also said hes broke scared and people want to leave. So you trust a scared rabbit to be honest with mean press people?


Absolutely since they are calling him that name !

Press , especially the right wing liars , defame and pervert those
who tell the trurh...ler alone exactly *which* press people disavow him ?

Your rightest bullshit news ?

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Blackwolf said:

Absolutely since they are calling him that name !

Press , especially the right wing liars , defame and pervert those
who tell the trurh...ler alone exactly *which* press people disavow him ?

Your rightest bullshit news ?


You know whats bullshit, is that I thought you would care about truth.


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