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lepperochan said:To be perfectly honest, Riddler, I was under the impression you'd been 'inside a couple of times. sorry bout that. must have read something you wrote wrong

It's because if he's rickE ( which he hasn't denied ) he said he checked or was checking himself into a facility. The public post was after he was released. It was a very brave and admirable thing of him to do.

Of course, whatever profile he used to state that has been deleted along with the post. So, no, there is no way to verify its existence. However, a moderator is aware of the issue, so it's verifiable.

A good question for this thread is how many times can a person come back under different profiles without disclosing who they were before? I get the whole "People deserve a second chance ( or even third )" thingie; however, when that second/third chance turns into innumerable chances demonstrating the same behavioral grudges against members, when is intervention required?

This has been going on since 2015, BEFORE I was a member.  Here is a thread verifying that.

https://deepundergroundpoetry.com/forum/speakeasy/read/8090/15/#297230

I don't want to destroy anyone's reputation; however, I am sick, and so tired, of the same people returning under different names ( for over half a decade ) and attacking the same members.  

I just want peace and poetry. We have talked it out and agreed between one another.  Is this not what you wanted? Make ups?

Had I ever personally attacked him I would apologize. But, you see, I haven't. Instead I have remained silent all these years, trying to let it go. Every insult. Every jab. Every threat.

But enough is enough.

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lepperochan said:To be perfectly honest, Riddler, I was under the impression you'd been 'inside a couple of times. sorry bout that. must have read something you wrote wrong

And as said, itís cool. People may think what they want, I know where Iíve been and where I havenít. I donít hold nothing against you. Itís all good.
Their reality is not mine, and when thereís no facts to back it up, which is what some people are always bloody pissing moaning about, what can one do? LOL

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She really is trying her luck. Let her get on with it.

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the5thRiddler said:She really is trying her luck. Let her get on with it.

My luck, rickE? No; the truth. That is what this thread is for according to Craic.  Everyone talk and make amends. Get it all out and move forward.

Maybe you didn't really check yourself in and were just saying that. How were we to know? So were you just saying that but didn't follow through? Because I don't want to falsely accuse you of anything. I can only go by what you've said.

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How are we to know that your source is telling the truth, without facts? So weíre just now supposed to go by her word, if the message is no longer there? Lol

Youíre so wrong, and whoever agrees with me being in an institution, then, I really donít know what to say anymore honestly lol.

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the5thRiddler said:How are we to know that your source is telling the truth, without facts? So weíre just now supposed to go by her word, if the message is no longer there? Lol

Youíre so wrong, and whoever agrees with me being in an institution, then, I really donít know what to say anymore honestly lol.


So fine; you weren't. We must've all misread your messages. For that I apologize ( for myself ). But I do appreciate your honesty regarding my grandson, and the open-discourse between us to bury hatchets.

Poet on.

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Itís cool you know.
Iíve always regretted saying what I did, when in actual fact, I should went at Johnny. And from my perspective at the time, he put you in front of him. And I done wrong by doing what I did.

But the mental institution? No lol telling you now, Iíve never been and never needed to go lol

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the5thRiddler said:Itís cool you know.
Iíve always regretted saying what I did, when in actual fact, I should went at Johnny. And from my perspective at the time, he put you in front of him. And I done wrong by doing what I did.

But the mental institution? No lol telling you now, Iíve never been and never needed to go lol


I appreciate that very much. Johnny was attempting to stay out of it and allow me to moderate ( at my request ) an amicable solution. Once you threatened my grandchild, I went into mama bear mode and no longer cared about that.  

I hope you will let everything go ( that includes Johnny ) and focus on your poetry and drawings.  I have seen your drawings and you do have talent. Your energy would be better focused there and a happy life without old baggage.

Let's all do that.

Thank you for hashing this out for the good of DU.

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lepperochan said:To be perfectly honest, Riddler, I was under the impression you'd been 'inside a couple of times. sorry bout that. must have read something you wrote wrong

That is exactly the way we all understood the posts too. Thankfully it's all water under the bridge now.  That is how you work something out between each other without bashing and name calling.  

Thank you for the opportunity, rickE.  And you too, Johnny, for creating this thread.

DU will be a better place now.

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Curious as to who the moderator is though, that I told about admitting myself into an institution. That message does not exist and never has.
That blew me away more than anything lol

But ima not hold the remark against anyone. Iíve sent no message like it, and if people misinterpret some of my insane asylum posts for me actually being in one then, I donít know what I can do about that lol

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I feel ,  there is a great need for a new website
A website where , you and yes , you could be our guide
Your guidance will lead us to a place  that will outshine all other poetry sites  
A  virtual utopia  like the Walgreens world .
Such beauty and  wonderful colors  could be presented
colors you could rename as you see fit
I see a steel door at the entry to the only correct portal
one of you could man the switch  dropping  the unwanted,  the  unverifiable  into a chute
whereupon these now identified users , which you have verified
with the correct users their   names could hang as prayer cloths
you could hope and pray that they someday get it right
You could have a podcast where you will denounce the original thinker
or others with an opinion
A weekly attaboy for remaining silent
I know many will flock to be a member of such a prestigious site


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lepperochan said:Point being we are all both responsible and culpable for what we say. I noticed David accepted that for his part and so did I

It would be a welcome change if others did also. I see a lot of veiled and not so veiled digs at people, but nothing by way of ...yes, fair enough, I do some shit too

Its not a huge ask, but it would certainly be something


It is never going to happen - been there, got the Tshirt and the scars to prove it

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David_Macleod said:

It is never going to happen - been there, got the Tshirt and the scars to prove it


I got blocked for apologizing once. LOL  

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oooooops

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Timagination543 said:

I got blocked for apologizing once. LOL  




How strange - so did I. Isn't life fascinating when you are not a narcissist. Apologies given / apologies snubbed and ignored LOL

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