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EdibleWords said:

Iíll do that if you will carry a sign in public saying #thuglivesmatter

This man did the same thing to a pregnant woman essentially, in a home invasion.

He made her beg for her baby with a gun to her stomach. Later he died crying to his mommy. Poetic.


EDIBLE you did not just say George Floyd deserved this
Yes I'm putting words in your mouth Essentially that is what you said
Justifying police brutality by pointing the finger at the victim shame on you THATS LOVE?

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Valeriyabeyond said:

EDIBLE you did not just say George Floyd deserved this
Yes I'm putting words in your mouth Essentially that is what you said
Justifying police brutality by pointing the finger at the victim shame on you THATS LOVE?


He did his time in prison paid his dues
You my dear fit the profile of the millions upon millions of caucasions that speak the same things you just spoke
That is why this country can't pull it's head out of it's own ass

I shudder when I read that Edible
You can't cover the world with a blanket of love and say something like that
Ugh I gotta go

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Oh damn Edible I  didn't know,  
that you were like the ones,  who helped me make the decision to never, call myself a Christian.
you are all the way in, with the ones side who stare and say at least I'm not like him.  
The judgmental attitudes of the righteous

It makes no difference what his crimes were, they were in the past.
He was a free man, he paid his debt to society.
The bigoted white man took his life.
While others stand by and spew hate speech.
Riding around in God's pocket reciting scripture believing it is God's will.

That is a very very dangerous place to be

Do you remember when Louis Farakan made his rounds on the talk shows in the late 90's I believe it was .
Do you remember the rhetoric of the Black separatists?
When Khalid spoke,  he  was labeled an extremist. Yes a separatists is a rcist is an extremist they proclaimed to be doing right because they serve their God
That's what some Christians do they have separated the rest of humanity
and labeled them unworthy because they think that's what God would have done

What a disgusting remark about Hitler
It has no place in this conversation

A counterfeit 20
Did you know I passed two fake twenties two weeks ago
I went to a second hand store and bought a chest freezer
I went to the ATM first and got the cash
The store owner tells me two of them were fake she had the pen
She took them anyway said she would pass them on why not the bank does and our money is not worth anything
anyway  she said
Should I have gone to jail for breaking the law ? Did we just launder counterfeit money ?

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How many of these groups hold their meeting g inside a church?

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EdibleWords said:

He had drugs, he was resisting arrest, he was very high, he was a giant felon, a bouncer, known the the psycho killer, and so what does that tell you?

Destroy the world!?

If you want better police - amen.

If you want thugs to matter more than a terrorized black woman or a nation on fire, no.

You see men honor a man whoís surviving victim - who now - after begging him for her babyís life - watches him sainted!


I can see that you will never walk in the shoes of the opressed
So I will leave it alone .

George Floyd is not, responsible for the burning and looting.
Frustration,  being fed up, shock,  and mental Illness from the lockdown contributed to the crimes.
The extremists  arrived to further  their  cause of separating the  people by race.
The ones who know that all the protestors will be blamed because they are black.
That is the MO of the white separatist

How do you know these things about George Floyd are true .
You believe them because he was big and black?
He was a bouncer okay, and what's your point ?
Could you be thinking " hey this man had a job."  and was supporting himself?

So he had a nickname and a reputation
It's clear he was utilizing his skills
If I were skilled at nursing, I  would get a job as a nurse

I refuse to talk about Hitler except to say there are statistics out there that show during a lengthy debate someone will bring up Hitler

George Floyd was not resisting arrest when the officers approached his vehicle and put a gun to his face.
He wasn't under arrest then it should have been an moment of questioning.
Why the automatic arrest there were no video tapes mentioned of them seeing him pass the twenty
They went by the word of the store clerk who was not present at the vehicle to ID anyone
There was quite a distance between the store and the vehicle too far to make a positive ID
The cops know that
You insist he was so high on drugs which the drug was actually Fentanyl and meth
have you ever seen someone high on heroin?
They are not combative
Did you see the video where the officer walked him to the wall of the building to sit down?
Did you see his feet his ankles?
He  was not in any condition to fight
He was not selling drugs he was using drugs
He was only hurting himself not others .

Again do you know how many twenty dollar bills are passed in this country each day that are fake ?


The officer Derek Chauvin was training the other officers he was a training officer. that is appalling and damn frightening to know that they were being trained to murder innocent citizens Yes he was innocent

I think in this country you have to be accused,  charged, arrested, arrainged, proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that you committed the crime,  unless, you take a plea, found guilty, sentenced,
Until then,  you ate innocent

For far too long the black man has been presumed guilty from the onset .
Do you remember the black man who stepped on to his front step in NY had just gotten off work and was going for a bite to eat
As soon as he stepped out onto his step he was shot down by NY cops 40 FORTY shots were fired at one man .
19 shots hit him NINETEEN SHOTS
what had he done? how did he pose a danger,  how did he threaten their lives ?
I don't know what he had done previous to that evening I do know that is excessive force  
Goodnight

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George Floyd was ALREADY subdued by the four officers and needlessly killed.

His life mattered regardless of excuses made on behalf of his mistreatment.

Anyone can make the argument that this happens to white civilians too, but black people are upset that it happens more often to black people because they are black.

They are tired of this and are protesting. Millions of non blacks are protesting with them.

The phrase "black lives matter" is about expressing your belief that the lives of black people do matter as much as any other skin color and it is about expressing your support for the end of their mistreatment.

That's it.

To say "all lives matter" and excuse the mistreatment of Floyd after he was ALREADY subdued just illustrates that the person saying it doesn't believe it.

To say "love matters" is something best said to those police officers - they are the ones who acted without any love in their hearts for their fellow man. Instead they attempted to intimidate Floyd and the onlookers with a pointless show of brutal force.

To argue people are Sainting Floyd is a waste of time and energy. You might as well be arguing that Richard Speck or Charles Manson were not marriage material. Some people did. Who cares? It isn't what is fueling the protests. Centuries of abusive treatment of other human beings is.  

The rioting and looting caused by and stoked by outsiders with agendas is irrelevant to this situation. If you are concerned with fallout - property damage, money lost and lives taken - then be a part of the solution by discouraging more heartless police brutality. Don't make excuses for it or distract focus away from it with red herrings amok and personal agendas as selfish as encouraging protesters to riot and loot.

Unfortunately, social distancing has largely been thrown out the window in the process, thus more lives are going to be lost in the process.



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America does democracy this way....out loud, by fire and pain, by bleeding.

This is more of the same.

Let the country burn.

Let voices be heard.

If silence and quiet conversation didnít  work, what is left for the aggrieved?

A heavily armed police force who see enemies everywhere, creates enemies everywhere.

Disarm your people.

Disarm your police.

This election year is yours.

I believe in pain.

I believe in peace.

If this is not the moment, the moment will come.

Down with freedom.

Down with the 2nd amendment.

Down with simple statements.


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(We outside you wish upon you wisdom.

We outside you see the end, or a beginning.

We outside you see ignorance, intolerance, a powerful and polarised media, a great separation, and hope.

Nothing is impossible.

Rome burned.

Freedom did not.

This democracy is only 200 years old.

Begin again.

Or die)

History will only find you interesting, either way.

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Kia ora, hemi; manaaki koe.

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Ultimately, prosperity comes from stability.

Those who are removed from that will be surprised when the world moves on without them.

The English thought they ruled the world.

The world turned.





Prepare to be humbled.

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JohnnyBlaze said:George Floyd was ALREADY subdued by the four officers and needlessly killed.

His life mattered regardless of excuses made on behalf of his mistreatment.

Anyone can make the argument that this happens to white civilians too, but black people are upset that it happens more often to black people because they are black.

They are tired of this and are protesting. Millions of non blacks are protesting with them.

The phrase "black lives matter" is about expressing your belief that the lives of black people do matter as much as any other skin color and it is about expressing your support for the end of their mistreatment.

That's it.

To say "all lives matter" and excuse the mistreatment of Floyd after he was ALREADY subdued just illustrates that the person saying it doesn't believe it.

To say "love matters" is something best said to those police officers - they are the ones who acted without any love in their hearts for their fellow man. Instead they attempted to intimidate Floyd and the onlookers with a pointless show of brutal force.

To argue people are Sainting Floyd is a waste of time and energy. You might as well be arguing that Richard Speck or Charles Manson were not marriage material. Some people did. Who cares? It isn't what is fueling the protests. Centuries of abusive treatment of other human beings is.  

The rioting and looting caused by and stoked by outsiders with agendas is irrelevant to this situation. If you are concerned with fallout - property damage, money lost and lives taken - then be a part of the solution by discouraging more heartless police brutality. Don't make excuses for it or distract focus away from it with red herrings amok and personal agendas as selfish as encouraging protesters to riot and loot.

Unfortunately, social distancing has largely been thrown out the window in the process, thus more lives are going to be lost in the process.


Excellent response.  

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Ahavati said:Kia ora, hemi; manaaki koe.

Whakataka te hau ki te uru,
Whakataka te hau ki te tonga.
Kia mākinakina ki uta,
Kia mātaratara ki tai.
E hī ake ana te atākura he tio,
he huka, he hauhunga.
Haumi e! Hui e! Tāiki e!

This is the blessing of a warrior, seeking peace.


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hemihead said:

Whakataka te hau ki te uru,
Whakataka te hau ki te tonga.
Kia mākinakina ki uta,
Kia mātaratara ki tai.
E hī ake ana te atākura he tio,
he huka, he hauhunga.
Haumi e! Hui e! Tāiki e!

This is the blessing of a warrior, seeking peace.



Yes; gratitude cannot share the same space as dejection; it just canít. 👃

Thank you for the reminder & strength.

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hemihead said:Ultimately, prosperity comes from stability.

Those who are removed from that will be surprised when the world moves on without them.

The English thought they ruled the world.

The world turned.

Prepare to be humbled.


^ This. There are still some who condone this nation's imperialist past. All that 'the sun never sets on the empire' bullshit. A litany of raping other countries. Shameful. The West is culpable of considering themselves the World's Moral Police....but those in glasshouses etc. Despairing times. Was it REM who sang of the end of the world?

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