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Coronavirus ( Covid-19) Part II

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No , my dear...

That is *not* true at all , for me...

But *that* is how you insist on seeing it...

I posted what I did , not all Code , by far , due to
that is the way my brain sees reality , and thus for
me it is quite normal conversation...

If you truly knew me , or cared to...you would understand...

Next subject ?

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This is the current subject in relation to covid-19. If you would stop making everything about yourself and what you teach, you just might learn something new outside the code you teach. It is a medical *FACT* that the CDC has been instrumental in the field of infectious disease.  It is a *FACT* that the first place world scientists and physicians called was the CDC.

If you choose to ignore those facts and have a different view, your view, that is fine. But it's not fact.

Achievements in Public Health, 1900-1999: Control of Infectious Diseases

Deaths from infectious diseases have declined markedly in the United States during the 20th century (Figure 1). This decline contributed to a sharp drop in infant and child mortality (1,2) and to the 29.2-year increase in life expectancy (2). In 1900, 30.4% of all deaths occurred among children aged less than 5 years; in 1997, that percentage was only 1.4%. In 1900, the three leading causes of death were pneumonia, tuberculosis (TB), and diarrhea and enteritis, which (together with diphtheria) caused one third of all deaths (Figure 2). Of these deaths, 40% were among children aged less than 5 years (1). In 1997, heart disease and cancers accounted for 54.7% of all deaths, with 4.5% attributable to pneumonia, influenza, and human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection (2). Despite this overall progress, one of the most devastating epidemics in human history occurred during the 20th century: the 1918 influenza pandemic that resulted in 20 million deaths, including 500,000 in the United States, in less than 1 year--more than have died in as short a time during any war or famine in the world (3). HIV infection, first recognized in 1981, has caused a pandemic that is still in progress, affecting 33 million people and causing an estimated 13.9 million deaths (4). These episodes illustrate the volatility of infectious disease death rates and the unpredictability of disease emergence.

Public health action to control infectious diseases in the 20th century is based on the 19th century discovery of microorganisms as the cause of many serious diseases (e.g., cholera and TB). Disease control resulted from improvements in sanitation and hygiene, the discovery of antibiotics, and the implementation of universal childhood vaccination programs. Scientific and technologic advances played a major role in each of these areas and are the foundation for today's disease surveillance and control systems. Scientific findings also have contributed to a new understanding of the evolving relation between humans and microbes (5).

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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4829a1.htm

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I know you well enough from engaging in these very threads. My initial comment wasn't an attack on you or your answer; it wasn't negating what you said; it was a simple tack-on to what you said from the facts I have read, and am now disheartened about.  When you can't get anyone on the line at the CDC, or can't get anyone to return your call because it's under such a lockdown of control, that is sad and just another full-assimilation.

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Have a good day , Ahavati...

You have a skewed framwork of me ,
you just can't let go of...too bad for
both of us...

I will read that later , or tomorrow...


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Blackwolf said:Have a good day , Ahavati...

You have a skewed framwork of me ,
you just can't let go of...too bad for
both of us...

I will read that later , or tomorrow...



I think NOTHING of you, BW, good or bad. You just are. I am wrong about one thing, thinking we could have a conversation without it getting dramatic. Maybe it's the planetary alignment, I don't know. Thank you for your consideration.  

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Blackwolf said:Have a good day , Ahavati...

You have a skewed framwork of me ,
you just can't let go of...too bad for
both of us...

I will read that later , or tomorrow...



Actually, her initial two replies weren't the slightest critical of you or your opinions, to which you became defensive.

We're all prone to misinterpreting what is written - depending on what kind of mood we're in, how much sleep we get, etc.

[sh]It happens.



Ahavati said:

I think NOTHING of you, BW, good or bad. You just are. I am wrong about one thing, thinking we could have a conversation without it getting dramatic. Maybe it's the planetary alignment, I don't know. Thank you for your consideration.  


Tomorrow is another day. 🌞

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JohnnyBlaze said:

Tomorrow is another day. 🌞



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Ahavati said:



LOL Now there's an idea for a comp!

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Another one bites the dust, another one bites the dust, hey, hey - not sure what made me think of this lyric - maybe it's our rights to free speech, maybe not?

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JohnnyBlaze said:

LOL Now there's an idea for a comp!


LOL! Indeed!

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From my friend, Brandon McCoy ( who is one of the most level-headed people I know ).

I had a friend call me. He was infected with COVID-19. He didnít have a fever. He didnít have any cough. He lost his sense of smell and taste for a few days. No big deal for him. But his mom got it from him, and his brother, and much of his brotherís family. His mom and his brother were hospitalized and were struggling to survive. His mom was elderly, his brother was not, and neither had pre-existing conditions. Thankfully, they are out of the hospital now, but still experiencing the lingering affects of this virus. While there are many theories why some have very few symptoms and others result in serious hospitalizations and even death, the bottom line is that we just donít know. A month ago he was claiming it was a media and political hoax. When he got it, it confirmed his suspicions that it wasnít as bad as it has been portrayed. After his mom and brother were hospitalized with it, it has led him to rethink everything. This post isnít from someone who has political gain, or who wants any kind of media attention. This post is from a pastor who is hearing more and more stories like this in Gastonia. Live the abundant life that God has called you to live, but please do so in a way that doesnít put others at more risk. We are our brotherís and sisterís keeper.

And to add to his story, I rarely venture out, but did to a store this morning.  The manager and I had a long conversation ( in masks ) about this exact same thing. She said she thought it was a hoax and political the whole time, then three of her relatives got it. One was an asymptomatic child, the other two were in the hospital at the time. Both previously healthy. One was elderly and one was a 35 yo female. The 35 yo was on a ventilator. I have no idea how that story will end.

This is not a joke.

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Ahavati said:From my friend, Brandon McCoy ( who is one of the most level-headed people I know ).



And to add to his story, I rarely venture out, but did to a store this morning.  The manager and I had a long conversation ( in masks ) about this exact same thing. She said she thought it was a hoax and political the whole time, then three of her relatives got it. One was an asymptomatic child, the other two were in the hospital at the time. Both previously healthy. One was elderly and one was a 35 yo female. The 35 yo was on a ventilator. I have no idea how that story will end.

This is not a joke.


So true,  thank you for this story.
On March 10,  I went to Las Vegas for my husband's surgery .
Most hospitals  had begun  erecting COVID tents in the parking lots.

I felt this virus was "something" to be suspicious of but didn't want to give it much credit. My grandma would tell me when I was a little girl when I thought there was a boogie man in the closet to ignore it,  don't give it any credit and it can't hurt you.
Guess I carried that belief with me into adult hood.
While at the hospital I  was able to come and go as I pleased, they would ask me the same questions upon re-entry but they never did check for a fever.
At the time it was recommended you wear a mask it you felt ill or had symptoms . I wore a mask regardless how I felt the entire time
Las Vegas did not seem  too worried  by the amount of people milling around although the Casinos we're closed or closing
One week later when I got home I felt like major shit my temp rose to 103-104 and stayed consistently for five days
I had a headache a cough. I have a portable oxygen generator for asthma and used it daily I wore the mask as often as I could
Just when I felt I would lose my mind from delirulium from the fever it broke
Within three days I felt much better A total of 8-10 days it lasted.
Arizona did not have testing available then so I was never tested
One month later it happened again same fever but only lasted 3-4 days
The cough lingered about two weeks
My husband whose health is very bad has never had a symptom although he has had two strokes since the pandemic began
I fear for the elderly and I feel for the families who have lost their loved ones to this very real virus
What I had was not your typical flu
I feel I was healthy enough to fight it although with asthma and the threat of death or something more serious than what I had it is puzzling
I believe the oxygen generator was a life saver.

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I apologize for the way I ignored your comment about your friend Brandon McCoy Ahavati  I selfishly carried on about myself I am pleased his family is doing better and that they survived this very real virus.

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It's okay, Val. I know you didn't deliberately intend to ignore, and it's the intentions that we all ( myself included ) need to pay attention to.  I have no doubt that big pharma is manipulating simple treatment publications in order to procure more profitable ones. In reference to hydroxychloroquine, it's not the actual administration of the drug that was opposed. If I remember correctly ( and I need to find that study ), it's the long-term effect of the drug on the heart.

Anyway, one of my own friends intended to keep a diary of her covid-19 experience. She didn't want it shared initially, and that's understandable being you don't know the prognosis. She's written only twiceóan initial entry on day three, and one yesterday, day 14 due to extreme fatigue. She is in her mid forties:

COVID-19 Day 14

Yíall I feel like Iíve been to Hell and back. The last week is a total blur. After two weeks in this bed I went to a very dark place mentally. I was angry, depressed, frightened and exasperated. I shut down and was despondent. And physically Iíve never been sicker, weaker or more exhausted than Iíve been. Yesterday I had enough energy to shower and sit up for a bit for the first time. Then I felt awful again. The littlest amount of activity wears me out. I canít even describe how weak and tired it makes you. Like you canít even move. And I still wake up freezing and covered in sweat from fever. And have lost ten pounds with no appetite. And about half a dozen other things.
Today Iíve been up watching tv but nighttime the symptoms kick in hard and Iím wiped out again now.
I want to say thank you to everyone who has checked on us, sent food and made donations. Youíre amazing and so loved and appreciated. I havenít had the energy to respond to everyone or properly thank all of you in person. But thank you with my whole heart.
Jacob has started showing symptoms and is being tested tomorrow.  Itís my worst fear. He is beside himself that he will be stuck here inside for potentially another ten days. Heís very grumpy and tired of being trapped in this covid house. Please say a prayer. This could affect his freshman year at Belmont Abbey.
So far Quincy is symptom free, thank God. Sheís signed up for all remote learning for her sophomore year of high school. We are keeping her safe.  No question.
Josh is getting stronger and trying to build up stamina to return to work this weekend. He still feels a bit flu like and worn out, also in the evening mostly, but def on the mend. Heís been my angel. He literally saved me and kept me from giving up. The things we have been through together since we started dating in February are just crazy. No one has ever loved me like this.
I can hardly put into words what this experience has been like. I am so blessed with beautiful people in my life that have made it easier. And it may continue longer with my son as we still try to recover. Also returning to work will be scary because we CAN get sick again. Itís petrifying. Iíll end this by saying wear those masks like your health depends on it. Keep your distance and believe this is very real.
Finally, be gentle with each other. Remember kindness and love. Iím sending it to all of you. ❤️

~ Jen


Stay safe and protect yourselves out there.  


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Ahavati said:It's okay, Val. I know you didn't deliberately intend to ignore, and it's the intentions that we all ( myself included ) need to pay attention to.  I have no doubt that big pharma is manipulating simple treatment publications in order to procure more profitable ones. In reference to hydroxychloroquine, it's not the actual administration of the drug that was opposed. If I remember correctly ( and I need to find that study ), it's the long-term effect of the drug on the heart.

Anyway, one of my own friends intended to keep a diary of her covid-19 experience. She didn't want it shared initially, and that's understandable being you don't know the prognosis. She's written only twiceóan initial entry on day three, and one yesterday, day 14 due to extreme fatigue. She is in her mid forties:



Stay safe and protect yourselves out there.  



Bless their hearts.

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