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LOL!  Funny how all good things are attributed to God; and all bad things are attributed to the devil rather than assuming personal responsibility. It was his choice to participate without wearing a mask or heeding the warnings.  But the devil. . .

Edit for Clarification: Yes, negative energy does attempt to thwart positivity at times to judge personal perseverance and commitment; however, the difference is whether or not one has been stupid.

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What a bloody mess. . .

Coronavirus live news: confirmed Covid-19 cases exceed 10m globally

It'll take four years for NHS to recover from Covid-19, health chiefs warn

Patients will face much longer waits for procedures as hospitals operate at a predicted 40% of capacity

The NHS will not be able to get back to providing its full range of services for as long as four years because of the huge disruption caused by Covid-19, hospital bosses warned on Saturday.

Patients will face much longer waits than usual for operations and diagnostic tests because hospitals’ drive to remain infection-free means they are closing beds, and surgeons’ need to wear protective clothing means they are carrying out fewer procedures than before the pandemic.

In a stark admission of the complexity of reopening the NHS, a key health service leader has predicted that some hospitals will be able to provide only 40% of the care they previously delivered.

Hospitals are under pressure from ministers and health charities to restart services as soon as possible for patients with conditions such as cancer, obesity and joint problems. But the chief executives of three NHS trusts in England have told the Observer that the “sheer complexity” of getting back to normal amid the lingering effects of Covid-19 means progress will be very slow.

“It could be four years before waiting times get back to pre-Covid levels. We could see that. It’s certainly years, not months,” said Glen Burley, the group chief executive of Warwick hospital, George Eliot hospital in Nuneaton and County hospital in Hereford.

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jun/27/itll-take-four-years-for-nhs-to-recover-from-covid-19-health-chiefs-warn

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Maybe people will take it more seriously now. Even those not protesting safely need to take responsibility.  It's sad that it's come to this.

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JohnnyBlaze said:Maybe people will take it more seriously now. Even those not protesting safely need to take responsibility.  It's sad that it's come to this.

Yep. North Carolina's Governor has take so much FLACK from republicans for being one of only two states holding back from fully reopening. Especially from bar owners.

Right. Diss him now. . .

Gov. Greg Abbott Expresses Regret Over Reopening Texas Bars During Coronavirus

Gov. Greg Abbott on Friday expressed regret for the first known time about the reopening process he spearheaded during the coronavirus pandemic, saying he should not have allowed bars to open as quickly.

“If I could go back and redo anything, it probably would have been to slow down the opening of bars, now seeing in the aftermath of how quickly the coronavirus spread in the bar setting,” Abbott said during an evening interview with KVIA in El Paso.

Abbott added that the “bar setting, in reality, just doesn’t work with a pandemic,” noting people “go to bars to get close and to drink and to socialize, and that’s the kind of thing that stokes the spread of the coronavirus.”

In a subsequent interview with WFAA in Dallas, Abbott reiterated regret over the pace of bar reopenings, calling it an “easy thing to pinpoint” as he looks back on the process.

Abbott’s comments came hours after he shut down bars across the state as part of a series of moves to contain a coronavirus spike in Texas. He also scaled back restaurant capacity to 50%, shut down rafting and tubing businesses, and banned outdoor gatherings of over 100 people unless approved by local officials.
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https://www.ktsa.com/gov-greg-abbott-expresses-regret-over-reopening-texas-bars-during-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR1p9iPLVGUmiuY0l_h0tALpQDaDO6AVe_MhaOLDMifh8_Z4wBCsmLcdRpE

Like they're going to maintain social distancing in a responsible manner when drunk.

Bars. Seriously. People get drunk in bars and chew their arms off the next morning so as not to wake the "dog" they're in bed with.  

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Ahavati said:

Yep. North Carolina's Governor has take so much FLACK from republicans for being one of only two states holding back from fully reopening. Especially from bar owners.

Right. Diss him now. . .

Gov. Greg Abbott Expresses Regret Over Reopening Texas Bars During Coronavirus

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https://www.ktsa.com/gov-greg-abbott-expresses-regret-over-reopening-texas-bars-during-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR1p9iPLVGUmiuY0l_h0tALpQDaDO6AVe_MhaOLDMifh8_Z4wBCsmLcdRpE

Like they're going to maintain social distancing in a responsible manner when drunk.

Bars. Seriously. People get drunk in bars and chew their arms off the next morning so as not to wake the "dog" they're in bed with.


That's what the local news is now in the habit of reporting. Reopenings of bars and restaurants that led to new outbreaks. "If you attended these particular locations on these dates, please get tested and self quarantine." And now those businesses publicly called out are stigmatized when it comes to lockdown again and providing take out only. Who wants to order food from the latest Ground Zero?!


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Hey...

If I were a business owner , first thing I would have done ,
was shut down my present business , and open a mail order
mask distribution center...

Intelligence is important !

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Blackwolf said:Hey...

If I were a business owner , first thing I would have done ,
was shut down my present business , and open a mail order
mask distribution center...

Intelligence is important !


I believe that is the direction we'll be heading in to salvage the economy - getting more people employed in the business of preventing Covid.

If people get paid to act wisely, success all around increases.

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Blackwolf said:Hey...

If I were a business owner , first thing I would have done ,
was shut down my present business , and open a mail order
mask distribution center...

Intelligence is important !



Point taken but the trouble is (like the war industry) you've got to find excuses to keep it going.

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Josh said:


Point taken but the trouble is (like the war industry) you've got to find excuses to keep it going.


The U.S. seems to be having no problem spreading it since the first known case.

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Josh said:
Point taken but the trouble is (like the war industry) you've got to find excuses to keep it going.


Not always...back in the eighties , I was selling
huge amounts of pot and hash...

Many hundreds of pounds...

A lot of money involved...

Time came , someone in the legal system got
told I was involved in that type of business...

I quit overnight , got an official job , kept living free...

Only stupid people continue in what does not serve them...

Problem is...we have an awful lot of stupid people in the world...


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Coronavirus Responses Highlight How Humans Have Evolved to Dismiss Facts That Don’t Fit Their Worldview

Bemoaning uneven individual and state compliance with public health recommendations, top U.S. COVID-19 adviser Anthony Fauci recently blamed the country’s ineffective pandemic response on an American “anti-science bias.” He called this bias “inconceivable,” because “science is truth.” Fauci compared those discounting the importance of masks and social distancing to “anti-vaxxers” in their “amazing” refusal to listen to science.

It is Fauci’s profession of amazement that amazes me. As well-versed as he is in the science of the coronavirus, he’s overlooking the well-established science of “anti-science bias,” or science denial.

Americans increasingly exist in highly polarized, informationally insulated ideological communities occupying their own information universes.

Within segments of the political blogosphere, global warming is dismissed as either a hoax or so uncertain as to be unworthy of response. Within other geographic or online communities, the science of vaccine safety, fluoridated drinking water and genetically modified foods is distorted or ignored. There is a marked gap in expressed concern over the coronavirus depending on political party affiliation, apparently based in part on partisan disagreements over factual issues like the effectiveness of social distancing or the actual COVID-19 death rate.

In theory, resolving factual disputes should be relatively easy: Just present strong evidence, or evidence of a strong expert consensus. This approach succeeds most of the time, when the issue is, say, the atomic weight of hydrogen.

But things don’t work that way when scientific advice presents a picture that threatens someone’s perceived interests or ideological worldview. In practice, it turns out that one’s political, religious or ethnic identity quite effectively predicts one’s willingness to accept expertise on any given politicized issue.

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DENIAL DOESN’T STEM FROM IGNORANCE

The interdisciplinary study of this phenomenon has made one thing clear: The failure of various groups to acknowledge the truth about, say, climate change, is not explained by a lack of information about the scientific consensus on the subject.

Instead, what strongly predicts denial of expertise on many controversial topics is simply one’s political persuasion.

A 2015 metastudy showed that ideological polarization over the reality of climate change actually increases with respondents’ knowledge of politics, science and/or energy policy. The chances that a conservative is a climate science denier is significantly higher if he or she is college educated. Conservatives scoring highest on tests for cognitive sophistication or quantitative reasoning skills are most susceptible to motivated reasoning about climate science.

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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coronavirus-responses-highlight-how-humans-have-evolved-to-dismiss-facts-that-dont-fit-their-worldview/

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^ I get a kick out of that word. "Bemoaning". They BE MOANING alright!

People can't see beyond their beliefs until they accept that their beliefs are not facts written in stone; to change your beliefs is to change the view of the world with all of its facts presented to yourself.

It's true, what the article says. It's not simply a case of ignorance, being under informed, or even being disinformed. We each dwell in a private universe regardless of the mass universe we share. And nothing a person does can shatter the personal reality fabricated by another.

Can a virus then infect and eradicate those who don't understand it and thus don't take precautions? Yes and No.

Yes, because we are witnessing a surge in infections due to people not taking sImple precautions seriously.

And no, because people are naturally innoculated by pure ignorance. A virus that isn't harmful in your personal reality will not harm you, though you can unknowingly still infect hundreds of others who can become ill if they subscribe to its harmfulness, but are likewise not taking preventative measures seriously.

What do you sincerely believe in?

Whatever it is, stand by it as your Truth and own it.

Respect the Truth that others stand by and own.

And if your goal is too force others somehow into embracing your Truth because you think it is the only Truth worth embracing, you are wasting your time. That is one thing out of very few things in this world that are impossible.

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You gotta say it right! Buh'moan'n. And, yes, they be. The world is not fitting into their little box of beliefs as to how it should be turning.

This election is going to reveal so much about our country.

That was very well stated.


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Yesterday's live-streamed Update from WHO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxY4kgULQCs

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Live now: Fauci testifies on reopening amid coronavirus surge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnljJ7e_IKs

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