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Ahavati said:

Sarah needs to make a 'How to Legal' video!


LOLOLOL! He never stops talking. Keep'em coming!

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LOL Secret Service on your doorstep in 3 ... 2 ... 1 .......

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Just remember that despite everything going on, this is still out there.

A Mask is a Stupid Hill to Die on, America

“It is not akin to choosing whether or not to wear a seatbelt—it’s choosing whether or not to drive blindly into a crowd. It is deciding to place other people in danger along with yourself. Saying, “If you want to wear a mask, fine, but don’t force me to,” is an explicit declaration of an ignorance that can’t or won’t tell the difference between a choice that affects only you and one that affects everyone.”

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2020/06/17/a-mask-is-a-stupid-hill-to-die-on-america/?fbclid=IwAR1MkAxuGL7Gn6ClTlFFAsEL_2CxKc62fATBDRLUnfa7sEwJ1YQ4YDP5__Y

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Ahavati said:Just remember that despite everything going on, this is still out there.

A Mask is a Stupid Hill to Die on, America

“It is not akin to choosing whether or not to wear a seatbelt—it’s choosing whether or not to drive blindly into a crowd. It is deciding to place other people in danger along with yourself. Saying, “If you want to wear a mask, fine, but don’t force me to,” is an explicit declaration of an ignorance that can’t or won’t tell the difference between a choice that affects only you and one that affects everyone.”

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2020/06/17/a-mask-is-a-stupid-hill-to-die-on-america/?fbclid=IwAR1MkAxuGL7Gn6ClTlFFAsEL_2CxKc62fATBDRLUnfa7sEwJ1YQ4YDP5__Y


It's not letting up. Hopefully the hospitals are better prepared now. And that mistakes won't be repeated from the first wave.

It's just a mask. Yet it is not just a mask. People want to turn it into a symbol of oppression. There's a whole hill of stupid opinions not worth dying for.

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Did not download the app, no idea how it got on my phone, how long it's been there, or who is sifting through any data


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lepperochan said:Did not download the app, no idea how it got on my phone, how long it's been there, or who is sifting through any data



Holy cow! Not getting that POS! How’d they get you?!?

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Ahavati said:Just remember that despite everything going on, this is still out there.

A Mask is a Stupid Hill to Die on, America

“It is not akin to choosing whether or not to wear a seatbelt—it’s choosing whether or not to drive blindly into a crowd. It is deciding to place other people in danger along with yourself. Saying, “If you want to wear a mask, fine, but don’t force me to,” is an explicit declaration of an ignorance that can’t or won’t tell the difference between a choice that affects only you and one that affects everyone.”

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2020/06/17/a-mask-is-a-stupid-hill-to-die-on-america/?fbclid=IwAR1MkAxuGL7Gn6ClTlFFAsEL_2CxKc62fATBDRLUnfa7sEwJ1YQ4YDP5__Y


Oh yeah, on Juneteenth they muzzle us all like chattel.

Don’t be embarrassed but you look like submissive women. Plenty of women have already died over this ....SHAME!

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EdibleWords said:

Holy cow! Not getting that POS! How’d they get you?!?


I'm told it's a google play thing. some of my friends in the US have it too. if you go to your Google settings you may find it. chances are it got you too

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If one does not wear a mask in my area ,
if you go into a building , you get arrested...

Period...no ifs , ands , or buts...

if you did , and were told to wear one , and
said , *but* , you would be called an asshole...

If you were in my area , not wearing a mask...

( I hate them , however , I know / see the reason )

You would not get where you wanted to go...

I , and others , would make *sure* of it...

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Blackwolf said:If one does not wear a mask in my area ,
if you go into a building , you get arrested...

Period...no ifs , ands , or buts...

if you did , and were told to wear one , and
said , *but* , you would be called an asshole...

If you were in my area , not wearing a mask...

( I hate them , however , I know / see the reason )

You would not get where you wanted to go...

I , and others , would make *sure* of it...


Bravo!

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* shaking my head here *

Trump Voters Are Burning Their Face Masks to Protest COVID-19 Orders

They believe masks do "not prevent the spread of COVID"

In what appears to be a new challenge-turned-fail, a number of Donald Trump voters are burning their face masks to try to own the libs. According to a report by Vice, MAGA fans have posted videos of themselves lighting the fabric on fire to Facebook, allegedly to protest their respective cities and states enforcing new COVID-19 protection orders.

It all began when Raleigh, North Carolina Mayor Mary-Ann Baldwin announced that face coverings will be mandatory in public, at supermarkets, inside businesses, on sidewalks, on public transportation, and in parking lots starting this Friday. Numerous other cities and states have implemented similar rules — a fact-driven, science-backed decision to stop the spread of COVID-19 and the number of coronavirus-related deaths.

The members of Facebook group ReOpen NC weren’t too happy to hear the news. Without wasting a minute, the group’s co-founder, Ashley Smith, uploaded a video of herself lighting a mask on fire inside a cast-iron skillet while giving a diatribe. It’s like she knew that there’s no better way to prove you’re a selfish American than by refusing to help protect neighbors and essential workers during a global pandemic!

“As you know we’re a group that is completely against mandatory anything,” exclaimed said in the video. “We’re for personal liberty and the Constitution and personal freedom and I’m just here today to start what I hope is going to be a campaign of everybody participating. I’m standing up and I’m saying I will not comply… This does not prevent the spread of COVID. This is not a sign of your compassion, or how much you care for any other human being. This is a sign of control. This is a sign to tell them you’re going to comply.”

Smith closed out the video by urging others to buy a box of surgical masks and burn them. In a second clip, that is astoundingly not a parody, someone attempted to cook a hotdog over a barely burning mask while “The Star-Spangled Banner” spilled out from a tiny speaker off camera.

Oh yeah, wait, there’s more! In an attempt to make the challenge go viral, the ReOpen NC folks are encouraging their followers to use the hashtag “#IgniteFreedom” when sharing their own mask-burning videos. Clearly they didn’t check to see what’s been tagged with the hashtag prior: an anti-human trafficking campaign launched months ago under the same name. The other hashtag ReOpen NC is pushing, “#BurnYourMaskChallenge”, has no results on Twitter or TikTok either.

The common-sense suggestion of wearing a face mask to protect others seems too complicated for some Americans to understand, nevertheless follow. Before they rush to play “Born in the U.S.A.” at full volume, they should keep in mind that Bruce Springsteen himself said to “put on a fucking mask” already. There’s no contesting him. After all, he’s the boss.

If you would like to follow CDC guidelines and continue wearing a face mask, why not pick up a pack or two of custom designs from Consequence of Sound. A portion of the proceeds benefit MusiCares’ COVID-19 Artist Relief Fund.

https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/06/trump-voters-burning-masks/?fbclid=IwAR0aUCBXuN9iiiVwlLGVxJ6mil4cqnIkIoXjN5Meo3Q6RCGLJdW0OWExbOE

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Nope; no concern at all.

Six Trump campaign staffers working on Tulsa rally test positive for coronavirus

Six staffers working on President Donald Trump's rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, have tested positive for coronavirus, the Trump campaign said Saturday.

Just hours before the President is expected to arrive in the state, Trump campaign communications director Tim Murtaugh said in a statement that "per safety protocols, campaign staff are tested for COVID-19 before events. Six members of the advance team tested positive out of hundreds of tests performed, and quarantine procedures were immediately implemented."

"No COVID-positive staffers or anyone in immediate contact will be at today's rally or near attendees and elected officials," he said.

The Trump campaign has dismissed concerns about the ongoing pandemic, moving forward with the scheduled rally despite a rising infection rate in Oklahoma. As of Saturday afternoon, Tulsa County reported the most cases -- 2,206 total -- of any county in the state, according to the

Oklahoma State Department of Health. The state recently reported its largest single day increase in coronavirus cases since the start of the pandemic.

[ . . . ]


https://us.cnn.com/2020/06/20/politics/trump-campaign-staffers/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0qUqHE4N5d2b_Ah4hTHctXYJKRlV_4Z73WVxczBPTqI1-3IcASGdNQc3U

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What planet am I on?

Amid threats and political pushback, public health officials are leaving their posts

For Lauri Jones, the trouble began in early May. The director of a small public health department in western Washington State was working with a family under quarantine because of coronavirus exposure. When she heard one family member had been out in the community, Jones decided to check in.

The routine phone call launched a nightmare.

“Someone posted on social media that we had violated their civil liberties [and] named me by name,” Jones recalled. “They said, ‘Let’s post her address . . . Let’s start shooting.’ ”

People from across the country began calling her personal phone with similar threats.

“We’ve been doing the same thing in public health on a daily basis forever. But we are now the villains,” said Jones, 64, who called the police and set up surveillance cameras at her home.

Public health workers, already underfunded and understaffed, are confronting waves of protest at their homes and offices in addition to pressure from politicians who favor a faster reopening. Lori Tremmel Freeman, chief executive of the National Association of County and City Health Officials, said more than 20 health officials have been fired, resigned or have retired in recent weeks “due to conditions related to having to enforce and stand up for strong public health tactics during this pandemic.”

Although shutdown measures are broadly popular, a vocal minority opposes them vociferously. There have been attacks on officials’ race, gender, sexual orientation and appearance. Freeman said some of the criticisms “seem to be harsher for women.”

Marcus Plescia, chief medical officer of the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials, said attacks on health officials have been particularly awful in California, Colorado, Georgia, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Quick stepped down as chief health officer in Orange County, Calif., after facing threats and protests at her home for requiring face coverings in many businesses as coronavirus cases rose. (Jeff Gritchen/The Orange County Register via AP)

This month in California, Nichole Quick, Orange County’s chief health officer, stepped down after she faced threats and protests at her home for requiring face coverings in many businesses as cases rose. The mandate, issued May 23, was softened to a recommendation a week later.

Andrew Noymer, a professor of public health at the University of California at Irvine who is part of a county task force, said it was not the first time Quick had been undermined.

On March 17, Quick issued a strict lockdown order; a day later it was amended to add exceptions.

“It was couched as a clarification, but it was a walk back,” Noymer said, because of pressure from business leaders.

Quick’s departure is part of an exodus of public health officials across the country who have been blamed by both citizens and politicians for the disruptions caused by the coronavirus pandemic.

“I don’t think I’ve ever seen anybody resign for the kinds of reasons we’ve seen recently,” Plescia said. “We are very concerned that if it continues to get worse it’s going to have major implications for who will be willing to have these jobs.”

Ohio’s public health director, Amy Acton, shifted to an advisory role after enduring months of anger against the state’s preventive measures, including armed protesters at her home bearing messages including anti-Semitic and sexist slurs. One Republican lawmaker linked Acton, who is Jewish, to Nazi Germany; another called her a dictator.

Georgia’s public health director said last month that she receives threats daily and now has an armed escort.

Pennsylvania’s secretary of health, who is transgender, has come under fire for the state’s handling of the pandemic, including from a county official who resigned after saying at a recent meeting that he was “tired of listening to a guy dressed up as a woman.”

Four public health officials in Colorado have left their jobs recently.

A day after telling political leaders in Weld County, Colo. that their insistence on a speedy reopening despite a high case rate and widespread transmission was giving him “serious heartburn,” Public Health Director Mark Wallace got a 7:30 p.m. email: He had until 9 a.m., it said, to weigh in on guidelines for reopening businesses — “churches, salons, restaurants, etc.” They would go public an hour later.

Wallace, who declined to comment for this article, retired soon after.

Theresa Anselmo, executive director of the Colorado Association of Local Public Health Officials, said 80 percent of members had reported being threatened and more than that were at risk of termination or lost funding.

“It’s exhausting to be contradicted and argued with and devalued and demoralized all the time, and I think that’s what you’re seeing around the country,” Anselmo said. “We’ve seen from the top down the federal government is pitting public health against freedom, and to set up that false dichotomy is really a disservice to the men and women who have dedicated their lives . . . to helping people.”

Not everyone has left willingly. In Colorado’s Rio Grande County, Emily Brown was fired, she says, after advocating a more cautious response to the virus.

“I think I just finally pushed too hard,” she said. “There was resistance to taking steps as quickly as I felt they needed to be taken or move in directions I thought we needed to.”

She had been in her position for six years and valued being part of a close-knit rural community. But during the pandemic, she began getting threatening messages online from people she considered neighbors, including one Facebook post that referenced hanging. She became worried about who she might run into at the grocery store.

“I’ve been surprised at who professes that vitriol so vocally on platforms like social media,” she said.

Derrick Neal, who runs the public health department in Round Rock, Texas, and is past president of the state public health workers’ association, said given the virus’s impact on daily life, public health was inevitably tied up in politics. “But a community has to be healthy in order to be economically solvent,” he said. “That’s been lost in the politics of all this.”

Public health workers in California have also been battered publicly by business groups, ordinary citizens and elected officials. Several have resigned.

“Half a dozen county health leaders are leaving their positions in the coming weeks. All of them have served with distinction and in the interest of public health,” California Medical Association president Peter Bretan Jr. said in a statement. “We are deeply concerned that politics may be trumping public interest.”

After Los Angeles County health official Barbara Ferrer held a news conference on May 13 saying some stay-at-home restrictions may remain in place for three more months, a doctored photo of her with dark circles under her eyes made its way across social media. One tweet, liked or retweeted more than 100,000 times, called her “the most unhealthy looking person I have ever seen.”

In a full-page ad in the local newspaper, a business council accused Santa Clara County’s public health officer, Sara Cody, of “cratering our economy” for being the first in the nation to impose a shelter-in-place order. The local sheriff is now investigating threats against her.

“This is the beginning of a wave of people leaving,” Anselmo said. “Who would want to go work as a director in a public health department when you have a target on your back?”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/amid-threats-and-political-pushback-public-health-officials-are-leaving-their-posts/ar-BB15Q3Ip?ocid=msedgdhp




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Ahavati said:Amid threats and political pushback, public health officials are leaving their posts

For Lauri Jones, the trouble began in early May. The director of a small public health department in western Washington State was working with a family under quarantine because of coronavirus exposure. When she heard one family member had been out in the community, Jones decided to check in.

The routine phone call launched a nightmare.

“Someone posted on social media that we had violated their civil liberties [and] named me by name,” Jones recalled. “They said, ‘Let’s post her address . . . Let’s start shooting.’ ”

People from across the country began calling her personal phone with similar threats.

“We’ve been doing the same thing in public health on a daily basis forever. But we are now the villains,” said Jones, 64, who called the police and set up surveillance cameras at her home.

Public health workers, already underfunded and understaffed, are confronting waves of protest at their homes and offices in addition to pressure from politicians who favor a faster reopening. Lori Tremmel Freeman, chief executive of the National Association of County and City Health Officials, said more than 20 health officials have been fired, resigned or have retired in recent weeks “due to conditions related to having to enforce and stand up for strong public health tactics during this pandemic.”

Although shutdown measures are broadly popular, a vocal minority opposes them vociferously. There have been attacks on officials’ race, gender, sexual orientation and appearance. Freeman said some of the criticisms “seem to be harsher for women.”

Marcus Plescia, chief medical officer of the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials, said attacks on health officials have been particularly awful in California, Colorado, Georgia, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Quick stepped down as chief health officer in Orange County, Calif., after facing threats and protests at her home for requiring face coverings in many businesses as coronavirus cases rose. (Jeff Gritchen/The Orange County Register via AP)

This month in California, Nichole Quick, Orange County’s chief health officer, stepped down after she faced threats and protests at her home for requiring face coverings in many businesses as cases rose. The mandate, issued May 23, was softened to a recommendation a week later.

Andrew Noymer, a professor of public health at the University of California at Irvine who is part of a county task force, said it was not the first time Quick had been undermined.

On March 17, Quick issued a strict lockdown order; a day later it was amended to add exceptions.

“It was couched as a clarification, but it was a walk back,” Noymer said, because of pressure from business leaders.

Quick’s departure is part of an exodus of public health officials across the country who have been blamed by both citizens and politicians for the disruptions caused by the coronavirus pandemic.

“I don’t think I’ve ever seen anybody resign for the kinds of reasons we’ve seen recently,” Plescia said. “We are very concerned that if it continues to get worse it’s going to have major implications for who will be willing to have these jobs.”

Ohio’s public health director, Amy Acton, shifted to an advisory role after enduring months of anger against the state’s preventive measures, including armed protesters at her home bearing messages including anti-Semitic and sexist slurs. One Republican lawmaker linked Acton, who is Jewish, to Nazi Germany; another called her a dictator.

Georgia’s public health director said last month that she receives threats daily and now has an armed escort.

Pennsylvania’s secretary of health, who is transgender, has come under fire for the state’s handling of the pandemic, including from a county official who resigned after saying at a recent meeting that he was “tired of listening to a guy dressed up as a woman.”

Four public health officials in Colorado have left their jobs recently.

A day after telling political leaders in Weld County, Colo. that their insistence on a speedy reopening despite a high case rate and widespread transmission was giving him “serious heartburn,” Public Health Director Mark Wallace got a 7:30 p.m. email: He had until 9 a.m., it said, to weigh in on guidelines for reopening businesses — “churches, salons, restaurants, etc.” They would go public an hour later.

Wallace, who declined to comment for this article, retired soon after.

Theresa Anselmo, executive director of the Colorado Association of Local Public Health Officials, said 80 percent of members had reported being threatened and more than that were at risk of termination or lost funding.

“It’s exhausting to be contradicted and argued with and devalued and demoralized all the time, and I think that’s what you’re seeing around the country,” Anselmo said. “We’ve seen from the top down the federal government is pitting public health against freedom, and to set up that false dichotomy is really a disservice to the men and women who have dedicated their lives . . . to helping people.”

Not everyone has left willingly. In Colorado’s Rio Grande County, Emily Brown was fired, she says, after advocating a more cautious response to the virus.

“I think I just finally pushed too hard,” she said. “There was resistance to taking steps as quickly as I felt they needed to be taken or move in directions I thought we needed to.”

She had been in her position for six years and valued being part of a close-knit rural community. But during the pandemic, she began getting threatening messages online from people she considered neighbors, including one Facebook post that referenced hanging. She became worried about who she might run into at the grocery store.

“I’ve been surprised at who professes that vitriol so vocally on platforms like social media,” she said.

Derrick Neal, who runs the public health department in Round Rock, Texas, and is past president of the state public health workers’ association, said given the virus’s impact on daily life, public health was inevitably tied up in politics. “But a community has to be healthy in order to be economically solvent,” he said. “That’s been lost in the politics of all this.”

Public health workers in California have also been battered publicly by business groups, ordinary citizens and elected officials. Several have resigned.

“Half a dozen county health leaders are leaving their positions in the coming weeks. All of them have served with distinction and in the interest of public health,” California Medical Association president Peter Bretan Jr. said in a statement. “We are deeply concerned that politics may be trumping public interest.”

After Los Angeles County health official Barbara Ferrer held a news conference on May 13 saying some stay-at-home restrictions may remain in place for three more months, a doctored photo of her with dark circles under her eyes made its way across social media. One tweet, liked or retweeted more than 100,000 times, called her “the most unhealthy looking person I have ever seen.”

In a full-page ad in the local newspaper, a business council accused Santa Clara County’s public health officer, Sara Cody, of “cratering our economy” for being the first in the nation to impose a shelter-in-place order. The local sheriff is now investigating threats against her.

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Ahavati said:What planet am I on?

Sadly, it's Earth.  

That there is a correlation between fear mongering, bigotry, and crybabying about being denied Freedom of Whatever At The Moment ( guns, speech, etc ) is really not surprising anymore.


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I am not surprised by threats by residents of Orange County

Republican stronghold , and five of the wealthiest towns in United States...

I am also not surprised by what would be loonies from Los Angeles ,
pulling stunts like that , as not onlly are there many Republican and
wealthy citizens in that county ( as well many poor , however ) it just
is a very crazy reality...

Third , Santa Clara itself , I would be surprised ;

Mostly Democrat , however , the mention of "business council" made
total sense , as those people are mainly again , Republican...

Of course , inspired to create problems to emulate Republicans
especially the President , refusing to wear a mask...

Since I reside in the state , thought I would throw that in...

General idiocy , and craziness...

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