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My co'worker told me about this today and I just came home from work and looked it up and if they're going to start taking our temperatures when we show up to work then they need to take the temperature of all the idiot customers who are flooding the stores cause they can't seem to sustain with what they got at home.  Thank god today was my last day of my 2 week hiatus.  

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/you-cant-get-fired-for-having-the-coronavirus-but-your-boss-can-take-your-temperature-how-the-covid-19-pandemic-is-reshaping-workplace-laws-2020-03-27

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SatInUGal said:Well, the inevitable happened. My sister-in-law's grandmother, who recently moved to a nursing home in NY, now has people with COVID-19 living in her facility. I am sad and furious. Everyone acts like CA's Gov. Newsom is a genius and Gov. Cuomo is doing his job. Newsom is just exhibiting common sense, and Cuomo deserves to burn hot for eternity.

Edit: Scrolling up, I see that I am in disagreement with others about Cuomo. I am hearing from my brother and his wife about the situation in NY, and this is how I feel. I am in CA, where we had a headstart on flattening the curve, so I admit it's a very privileged position.

What is your problem with New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, Satin? From all the news conferences I have seen of his, he seems to recognise the seriousness of the COVID-19 situation there in New York & surrounding counties & is begging Donald Trump for more medical supplies as well as calling on private hospitals to increase their capacity. I don't see what more he can do. I share your angush concerning your sister-inlaw's grandmother.

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Layla said:My co'worker told me about this today and I just came home from work and looked it up and if they're going to start taking our temperatures when we show up to work then they need to take the temperature of all the idiot customers who are flooding the stores cause they can't seem to sustain with what they got at home.  Thank god today was my last day of my 2 week hiatus.  

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/you-cant-get-fired-for-having-the-coronavirus-but-your-boss-can-take-your-temperature-how-the-covid-19-pandemic-is-reshaping-workplace-laws-2020-03-27


You can still be infected without showing any symptoms—so there's that. But, yes, I agree with you; everyone who walks through the door should have their temperature taken.


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Billy_Snagg said:
What is your problem with New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, Satin? From all the news conferences I have seen of his, he seems to recognise the seriousness of the COVID-19 situation there in New York & surrounding counties & is begging Donald Trump for more medical supplies as well as calling on private hospitals to increase their capacity. I don't see what more he can do. I share your angush concerning your sister-inlaw's grandmother.


He waited a long time before declaring a shelter-in-place, and got hung up on terminology based on what I can only assume is pride. From what I understand, DeBlasio was running into resistance from the Governor's office when he was trying to institute similar things early on. I just remember a number of phone calls with my brother and his wife lamenting how slowly NY was moving.

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I mean, that waiting is exactly THE THING that separates NY from CA, and it is a dramatic difference with many, many lives hanging in the balance. So there was a lot more he could have done. I don't get the fawning over him right now- he failed, and anyone who takes the wide view can see that NY massively messed up and is paying the price in a way no other part of the United States is.

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SatInUGal said:

He waited a long time before declaring a shelter-in-place, and got hung up on terminology based on what I can only assume is pride. From what I understand, DeBlasio was running into resistance from the Governor's office when he was trying to institute similar things early on. I just remember a number of phone calls with my brother and his wife lamenting how slowly NY was moving.

He's taking it seriously now, now that 1,000 daily deaths are occurring there. I still think there is a lot of passing the buck, including Trump. No one wants to take the blame but the president ultimately has to.

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Well Trump's response has been many levels worse than Cuomo's (he called it a hoax!), but "taking it seriously now" when the problem is definitively something you start out behind on is not acceptable. I mean, Florida's governor is arguably "taking it seriously now" - how is that going to help the many thousands of retirees that will die there because a bunch of idiots got their spring break on while other parts of the country were told to stay home?

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SatInUGal said:Well Trump's response has been many levels worse than Cuomo's (he called it a hoax!), but "taking it seriously now" when the problem is definitively something you start out behind on is not acceptable. I mean, Florida's governor is arguably "taking it seriously now" - how is that going to help the many thousands of retirees that will die there because a bunch of idiots got their spring break on while other parts of the country were told to stay home?
I have said this a lot to friends (yes, I have 1 or 2 believe it or not folks). It all comes down to money. If I'm honest I also think in hindsight we too in the UK were slow to lockdown. No one wants to shut the economy down & this virus took a lot of counties by surprise, maybe. I say maybe because it started in China but now people are beginning to suspect their death rate is higher than is stated.

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I am just really upset that my sister-in-law may very well lose her grandmother to something that could have been prevented. I am liable to go crazy about this for a little bit. I've cried a ton today. I'm an accountant by trade but I'm also more socialist than most, and I do not view the economy as something that needs to ever be weighed against the health of the many.

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SatInUGal said:I am just really upset that my sister-in-law may very well lose her grandmother to something that could have been prevented. I am liable to go crazy about this for a little bit. I've cried a ton today. I'm an accountant by trade but I'm also more socialist than most, and I do not view the economy as something that needs to ever be weighed against the health of the many.
That's right. The economy should never be placed above human life because without human life there is no economy. People are starting to realise that now. I totally get your fear.

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Love, fear, anger. It all kind of feels the same right now.

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World toll,Coronavirus - 60,000

Lives saved in China alone, by shutting smog producing factories and cars, drastically improving air quality- 70,000

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Until late 2017, WHO estimated that seasonal influenza was associated with a total of 250 000 to 500 000 deaths from all causes annually [1]. Recently, however, three different groups have provided estimates of influenza's annual mortality burden using different methods. The first to be published, from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and coordinated by WHO, estimated that influenza is associated with 290 000 to 650 000 deaths from respiratory causes alone [2]. WHO adopted this range in late 2017 as its official assessment [2]. In early 2019, a publication from the Global Burden of Disease Study (GBD) estimated a range of 99 000 to 200 000 annual deaths from lower respiratory tract infections directly attributable to influenza
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No one ever cared about these people, We focus on what we are fed
Mardi Gras, the Olympics,  Wars we scarf it up it suddenly means something to us because we are told we should care
Now this virus we are dragged by our ears the   temptation to see more like a train wreck we morbidly stare while big brother sticks it in our ass
Damn will we be sore when this is over
Or perhaps we will be conditioned to where we go back for more


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IT'S nice to know
that there are still
human minded mentality
people
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