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https://youtu.be/uMxwK3dekm4

Fake corona death caught on camera

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A polite no thank you to your control regime.

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Carpe_Noctem said:
https://youtu.be/3yvhmf38vOg

Britains head of epidemiology downgrades corona

https://youtu.be/g0GaV8ruoDw

Guy has a contact in defence department telling him the troops are mobilising to take over.
Also has an email from Dr kauffnan MD from MIT, COVID-19 is just an exosome. So everyone who gets tested will have it

Which brings in the next point... Forced vaccinations



Dammit I said that yesterday no one noticed. Because I'm seen as the thistle in a field of sunflowers beautiful but annoying
Everyone in India would test positive for TB also not directly related just saying
The tests that are currently being run are not specific to COVID-19
The tests they are using are PCR tests or
Serology / antibody tests
A sample of your cells your DNA  is amplified to look for viral sequences
Which are bits of none human DNA
They look to match a known viral genome they amplify exponentially the DNA until something can be identified
Contaminants would also be identified
Or corona virus of which there are many strains
To avoid these contaminants from producing gross error they would need to use a test that is isolated / purified particles and they are not
How would it be possible to identify a whole pathogen the way the tests are being run
The tests do not prove viral load there is no way to tell what the load is with the tests they are using

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Today's Worldometer

Coronavirus Cases:  731,453 ( + 63,102 )
Deaths:  34,661 ( + 3,634 )
Recovered:  154,430 ( + 17,119 )

US Cases: 142,737 ( + 38,481 )
Deaths: 2,489 ( + 785 )
Recovered:  4,562 ( + 1,324 )

Covid-19: Doctors are told not to perform CPR on patients in cardiac arrest

Healthcare staff in the West Midlands have been told not to start chest compressions or ventilation in patients who are in cardiac arrest if they have suspected or diagnosed covid-19 unless they are in the emergency department and staff are wearing full personal protective equipment (PPE).
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https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m1282

Over 300 Italian doctors and scientists call for more testing

More than 300 Italian doctors and scientists have called on the prime minister, Giuseppe Conte, and local authorities to use their skills and facilities to ramp up RNA testing to identify mild and asymptomatic cases of covid-19, which they have said account for 80% of all cases and are helping to spread the contagion.

“Given the dramatic emergency in which our country finds itself, we consider it our civic duty to intervene as scientists equipped with technical skills,” they said in an open letter to the heads of national and regional government. “In many other countries (including China, France, Austria, and Germany) academic laboratories with high level skills have been co-opted in order to provide equipment and staff for the extension of diagnostic tests,” they said. “In Italy there is an extraordinary community of researchers who could contribute immediately and very significantly and at zero cost to the current emergency situation.”

https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m1274


The bmj is a resource for healthcare professionals and contains a wealth of information.  

Coronavirus in the US: Latest COVID-19 news and case counts

Cases of COVID-19 have surpassed 100,000 in the United States, doubling in just three days. On Wednesday (March 25), the U.S. became the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic, its case count surpassing both China, where the outbreak began, and Italy, a country seeing a surge in new cases every day. Since the novel coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2 was first detected in the U.S. on Jan. 20, it has spread to at least 136,880 people in the U.S., across all 50 states.

Of those reported cases, 2,414 people have died in the U.S. from the virus, with at least 965 of those deaths in New York and 189 in Washington state. Globally, more than 713,171 cases have been confirmed, with 33,854 deaths, according to the Johns Hopkins dashboard.

[Live Science is tracking case counts and relevant news from each U.S. state. Click on your state in the list below.]

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-updates-united-states.html


Stay safe and healthy out there, DUPeeps!

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https://youtu.be/8yJIIuoDWlc

More medical professionals refuting covid19

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Carpe_Noctem said:https://youtu.be/8yJIIuoDWlc

More medical professionals refuting covid19


Firstly, they aren't refuting covid19; they're refuting how the stats are calculated. Secondly, the term "could plausibly" is not concrete.  Lastly, I have serious reservations about reading only a small portion of an article.  It's preferable to post the link to the the entire article vs just a paragraph or two.  This would give us a more accurate and overall understanding.

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Ahavati said:

Firstly, they aren't refuting covid19; they're refuting how the stats are calculated. Secondly, the term "could plausibly" is not concrete.  Lastly, I have serious reservations about reading only a small portion of an article.  It's preferable to post the link to the the entire article vs just a paragraph or two.  This would give us a more accurate and overall understanding.


https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/

Sorry should have posted that.

I don't think anyone is refuting covid19. It's the numbers the stats that don't add up.
Ask yourself how at roughly the same time globally there is mass panic buying, toilet paper of all things. IMO the media are to blame, so seeing as how trustworthy the media seem right now, how can we trust what's being shown?

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Ahavati said:

Firstly, they aren't refuting covid19; they're refuting how the stats are calculated. Secondly, the term "could plausibly" is not concrete.  Lastly, I have serious reservations about reading only a small portion of an article.  It's preferable to post the link to the the entire article vs just a paragraph or two.  This would give us a more accurate and overall understanding.


Yep, can't refute that. This is exactly what your doing. Posting refutable numbers, "Could plausibly be" is science. We don't know but our best guess based on a wide range of supporting evidence. Whose evidence? Yours? You've just refuted exactly your own position, you've said that we need something concrete but there isn't just one truth here. The truth is being used to manipulate people. Yes, there IS flu going around. It went around from 2014-18 according to hemi's self assured stats, you say we're being over dramatic when, in fact, the army are being rolled out, for the flu. "IT"S A VIRUS" isn't working on us, immunology says a virus doesn't kill you, it's always a secondary condition that gets you. I took a real beating from it, but I came out of it because I know how to look after myself. If you know what I mean.

Next move?


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Sky_dancer said:

Yep, can't refute that. This is exactly what your doing. Posting refutable numbers, "Could plausibly be" is science. We don't know but our best guess based on a wide range of supporting evidence. Whose evidence? Yours? You've just refuted exactly your own position, you've said that we need something concrete but there isn't just one truth here. The truth is being used to manipulate people. Yes, there IS flu going around. It went around from 2014-18 according to hemi's self assured stats, you say we're being over dramatic when, in fact, the army are being rolled out, for the flu. "IT"S A VIRUS" isn't working on us, immunology says a virus doesn't kill you, it's always a secondary condition that gets you. I took a real beating from it, but I came out of it because I know how to look after myself. If you know what I mean.

Next move?




You may care to examine that graph more closely. Not being corrected is not the same as being correct.

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Carpe_Noctem said:

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/10-more-experts-criticising-the-coronavirus-panic/

Sorry should have posted that.

I don't think anyone is refuting covid19. It's the numbers the stats that don't add up.
Ask yourself how at roughly the same time globally there is mass panic buying, toilet paper of all things. IMO the media are to blame, so seeing as how trustworthy the media seem right now, how can we trust what's being shown?


Well your previous statement ( actually more than one ) claim experts were refuting covid-19.  Therefore I felt I needed to clarify they weren't because covid-19 exists.

Also, a conversation is two way; and you ignored my well-thought-out response to your previous OffG post because I did not mention the reference link, despite quoting you. Typically, when I quote someone it's because I've read what they've posted, and taken the time to respond.

So when you decide to quote and answer that response, we can have a conversation. Until then, I refuse to allow you to put me on the defensive all day responding to your links.

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hemihead said:


You may care to examine that graph more closely. Not being corrected is not the same as being correct.


Yes, that's what we do here. We correct each other.

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Ahavati said:

Well your previous statement said that experts were refuting covid-19.  Therefore I felt I needed to clarify they weren't because covid-19 exists.

Also, a conversation is two way; and you ignored my well-thought-out response to your previous OffG post because I did not mention the reference link, despite quoting you. Typically, when I quote someone it's because I've read what they've posted, and taken the time to respond.

So when you decide to quote and answer that response, we can have a conversation. Until then, I refuse to allow you to put me on the defensive all day responding to your links.


Forgive me then for click baiting like mainstream media.

Well if you feel so on the defensive, perhaps this thread is more about your ego than a discussion.

You can click the links or not. Less close minded people will click all links in this discussion and make up THEIR own minds.

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Carpe_Noctem said:

Forgive me then for click baiting like mainstream media.

Well if you feel so on the defensive, perhaps this thread is more about your ego than a discussion.

You can click the links or not. Less close minded people will click all links in this discussion and make up THEIR own minds.


Just to clarify, I don't feel defensive; I said you weren't going to put me ON the defensive by catering to your links all day. There's a big difference.

Have a nice day.

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