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Don't forget the curse of religiosity!😇


Itís not a curse itís a built in feature of the human condition the mantras within religion about love help create the necessary moral frameworks to bond humans/tribes together itís a strange old game we people play.

As long as humans exist I believe religions, cults and snake oil salesmen will exist to some extent

Being as we are limited it takes collective work to bring about everything weíve accomplished good and bad, without the ability to co-operate we wouldnít be here, religion is an archaic mechanism that helped tie communities together but in the same vein when dogmatic and inflexible ties the community down in black and white thinking

The only system we have devised that creates demonstrable, proveable and replicable results is the thinking that came after the enlightenment,

Science, technology and mathematics, and a freeing and raising up of meritocracy of those individuals that are capable and competent. It is why we call for proof and have a morality of skepticism towards unsubstantiated claims of magic numbers and vibrating planes of the universal ancient aliens

But Iím just a bunch of lines assembled on a screen so I probably donít know what Iím talking about

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socksscareme said:It's been reported someone died in a hospital from the virus, 5 miles away from my house. As a parent, now the worry is tangible. =/

Shit's becoming real and hitting home all over the world.  I am so sorry for your community's loss.  Please stay safe and healthy out there.

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All I can say is "Wow".
There are a lot of really great educational posts on this forum...and some grossly inaccurate misconceptions.

If anyone has specific questions about:

-what a virus is
-how they KNOW it is not man-made
-how they determined it was likely a mutated bat/pangolin version of coronavirus
-or other specific biology questions

I'd be happy to give you my biology understandings the best I can.
I didn't read everything, so I'm unsure on what and what hasn't been talked about.

As for me:
The best qualification I have to offer is that I have research in genetics (which is basically all a virus is...DNA/RNA inside a protein capsule) and a vast background in biology.

I am also currently applying to a number of Biology PhD programs in the U.S.
...so, it's kind of my passion other than writing (though, I wouldn't call myself an expert...I just happen to know a little more than the average bear and how to find answers I don't know).

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PencilScribbles said:All I can say is "Wow".

That's what she said...

....The best qualification I have to offer is that I have research in genetics (which is basically all a virus is...DNA/RNA inside a protein capsule) and a vast background in biology.

I am also currently applying to a number of Biology PhD programs in the U.S.
...so, it's kind of my passion other than writing (though, I wouldn't call myself an expert...I just happen to know a little more than the average bear and how to find answers I don't know).


I have a question!

Which is more dangerous, cave diving or biochemistry?

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But Iím just a bunch of lines assembled on a screen so I probably donít know what Iím talking about


Is it a wave, or a kilobyte? 😉

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I have a question!

Which is more dangerous, cave diving or biochemistry?


Lol, that one I have no clue on!

But biochemistry can be really dangerous.

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PencilScribbles said:

Lol, that one I have no clue on!

But biochemistry can be really dangerous.


Because it's just not one of those things where if you see something, you can say something... 👀

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Wysteria, not hysteria.

Another world is possible; it's based on beauty no matter what's going on.

(picture from our garden taken today [27th March, 2020] at lunchtime)

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Tend the garden of your art
feel no hardening of heart.

(picture from our garden taken today [27th March, 2020] at lunchtime)

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https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/fppc7v/oc_where_the_money_goes_in_the_us_senates_2t/

This is a visual representation of the US $2T package and where it goes.

This guy (or girl) also so lots of terrific visualisations on spread rates etc etc. Really fun, educational....and sobering.

The US unemployment applications rate since the 1960ís will blow your hair back when it hit about a month ago!

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Covid 19 new cases rate over time for various countries.....watch what happens when lock down is done right

https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/fq4pgj/oc_corona_trends_shows_how_countries_that_contain/

(Graph is log scale, so straight line means exponential growth. Plotted Ďnormallyí would need a massive graph, hence log scale. They have other graphics for showing exponential growth)


True growth rates here, meaning not on log scale....the US is on the mother of all exponential runs!

https://i.redd.it/lqetnz4xw9p41.gif

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This is why I balk at conspiracy theories.  This is nothing new; it has happened before.  We survived a new world order then and we'll survive again.

Social distancing isnít a new ideaóit saved thousands of American lives during the last great pandemic.

[ . . . ]

Flu cases continued to mount until finally, on October 3, schools, churches, theaters, and public gathering spaces were shut down. Just two weeks after the first reported case, there were at least 20,000 more.

[ . . . ]

Of course, getting citizens to comply with such orders is another story: In 1918, a San Francisco health officer shot three people when one refused to wear a mandatory face mask. In Arizona, police handed out $10 fines for those caught without the protective gear. But eventually, the most drastic and sweeping measures paid off. After implementing a multitude of strict closures and controls on public gatherings, St. Louis, San Francisco, Milwaukee, and Kansas City responded fastest and most effectively: Interventions there were credited with cutting transmission rates by 30 to 50 percent. New York City, which reacted earliest to the crisis with mandatory quarantines and staggered business hours, experienced the lowest death rate on the Eastern seaboard.

[ . . . ]

The studies reached another important conclusion: That relaxing intervention measures too early could cause an otherwise stabilized city to relapse. St. Louis, for example, was so emboldened by its low death rate that the city lifted restrictions on public gatherings less than two months after the outbreak began. A rash of new cases soon followed. Of the cities that kept interventions in place, none experienced a second wave of high death rates.

[ . . . ]


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/03/how-cities-flattened-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/#close





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Because it's just not one of those things where if you see something, you can say something... 👀


It would be misleading to assume I could tell you which is more dangerous between cave diving and biochemistry.
There are many variables for each that would be hard to generalize.

For example:
What chemicals/equipment is being worked with? (and mind you I have absolutely zero knowledge of cave diving) What experience level does the person/persons have? How much is known about the substance/experiment/cave before hand? Safety equipment and PPE? For cave diving specifically, I guess you'd have to factor in location, potential erosion, and possibly weather? And so many more variables.

I would like to answer your question but comparing the two would only be an opinion.
I'm just mainly trying to help anyone who might have questions about COVID-19.

Some people are really worried, not because they shouldn't be, but because there are so many rumors and "explanations". If I can help in any way, I would like to...or, at least help point people in the right direction based on my relatively limited (compared to many others) knowledge.

Thank you and stay safe, dear.

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PencilScribbles said:All I can say is "Wow".
There are a lot of really great educational posts on this forum...and some grossly inaccurate misconceptions.

If anyone has specific questions about:

-what a virus is
-how they KNOW it is not man-made
-how they determined it was likely a mutated bat/pangolin version of coronavirus
-or other specific biology questions

I'd be happy to give you my biology understandings the best I can.
I didn't read everything, so I'm unsure on what and what hasn't been talked about.

As for me:
The best qualification I have to offer is that I have research in genetics (which is basically all a virus is...DNA/RNA inside a protein capsule) and a vast background in biology.

I am also currently applying to a number of Biology PhD programs in the U.S.
...so, it's kind of my passion other than writing (though, I wouldn't call myself an expert...I just happen to know a little more than the average bear and how to find answers I don't know).


Thank you for your expertise, Scribbles.  It's much appreciated.   Did you see the video commentonly posted from Bret and Heather Weinstein?  They both have PhD's in Biology you might be interested in.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ym-WGOq96G0

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Pencilscribbles, I would enjoy a laymanís version of;

-how they KNOW it is not man-made

The explanations I have found get too far in the weeds (being published for their peers)


Have no doubts, and have read the statement in Lancet (and shared it here twice) re research done on origins to date.

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Thank you for your expertise, Scribbles.  It's much appreciated.   Did you see the video commentonly posted from Bret and Heather Weinstein?  They both have PhD's in Biology you might be interested in.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ym-WGOq96G0


I haven't, thanks for sharing, I am very interested.
I'll watch it now.

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