Can you define poetry
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That's the spirit.
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Oh, and I wasn't complaining. Why would I be? It's not like your entries interfere with other entries. You don't have any alts participating in either comp, so you can't increase your odds of winning thus decreasing someone else's.
So ..........
That's the spirit.
EDIT:
Oh, and I wasn't complaining. Why would I be? It's not like your entries interfere with other entries. You don't have any alts participating in either comp, so you can't increase your odds of winning thus decreasing someone else's.
So ..........
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Count Harry Montgomery the third once said of Byron's poetry "but what of the monster, where does it hide in his words ? " the man beside him, Lord Fredrick Dalton, quietly tutted thrice, shook his head a little, thought to himself: 'he should be called Count retard the millionth'
and then he chuckled at the anecdote he'd have for the club
and then he chuckled at the anecdote he'd have for the club
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The word 'poem' comes from an ancient Greek word from the 4th or 5th century BC - 'πόημα' ('poeema'), meaning 'that which is made', which itself comes from the verb, 'ποείν' ('poeen'): 'to make'. The essence of the concept is that a poem is something 'made' or 'constructed', not a natural occurrence. To put it another way, the essence of a poem is creativity. When we speak or write ordinary prose, we simply express thoughts or ideas in standard language to convey our meaning, but when we speak or write poetically, we choose particular words or phrases designed to create a greater effect than the basic meaning. So whatever the form, whatever the subject, a poem adds to the idea being expressed. To give a couple of examples, here are two ideas expressed first as prose, then as poetry:
Example 1:
Autumn is the time of the year when the sun is low and
everything gets ripe. Prose
'Season of mists and mellow fruitfulness
Close bosom-friend of the maturing sun
Conspiring with him how to load and bless
With fruit the vines that round the thatch-eaves run.' Poetry, from John Keats' 'Ode to Autumn'.
Example 2:
A bell is ringing to tell the shepherds it's time to bring the sheep in and they are slowly making their way back over the fields Prose
'The curfew tolls the knell of parting day,'
The lowing herd wind slowly o'er the lea'. Poetry, from Thomas Gray's 'Elegy in a Country Churchyard'.
That's why poetry is different from prose - you added your creativity to it, and therefore the basic definition of a poem is that it's a creation.
Example 1:
Autumn is the time of the year when the sun is low and
everything gets ripe. Prose
'Season of mists and mellow fruitfulness
Close bosom-friend of the maturing sun
Conspiring with him how to load and bless
With fruit the vines that round the thatch-eaves run.' Poetry, from John Keats' 'Ode to Autumn'.
Example 2:
A bell is ringing to tell the shepherds it's time to bring the sheep in and they are slowly making their way back over the fields Prose
'The curfew tolls the knell of parting day,'
The lowing herd wind slowly o'er the lea'. Poetry, from Thomas Gray's 'Elegy in a Country Churchyard'.
That's why poetry is different from prose - you added your creativity to it, and therefore the basic definition of a poem is that it's a creation.
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To me poetry is something that warms your heart and makes you feel whole.
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For me poetry is a different perspective and a way of thinking, it's a way to represent thoughts.
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My muse can burn out of control like a wildfire, sometimes a smouldering flame. Often I'm the one holding the jerrycan, but usually the fire has been lit by an ember caught by the wind... and my poems are the ashes left behind by my inspiration.
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One thing that poetry ain't is journalism!
"Show AND Tell"
Don’t show me snapshots of pixilated faces
and vanilla homes with chocolate covered windows
In a stone cold Google street-view
Glaring through your camera clicking gaze
Snapshots won’t tell me if you have a heart that cares
Your eyes are mere windows, introduce your soul
Express emotions for the drunk in the gutter you saw lying there
Spare me your cold faux news commentary
In journalists accounts of potholes in the streets
Flooded by streams filled with empty imagery
Where a glut of meaningless metaphors pose as poetry
Paint me a painfully vivid Van Gogh
Don’t pop off plastic pics from Warhol’s bag of tricks
I’d rather you just tell me than show a painted face
That even lifeless mannequins would rather die
Than be manipulated by the ink that you portray
I’m so sick of it, so tired of photos full of holes
Bled dry of the emotion androids fail to feel
Until black and white is read all over
And over and over without a heartbeat changing pace
Like your wall of cleavage dripping selfies
Thinking you express secrets that no one else can see
Some hidden imagery declaring sex is never free
Somehow between the lines, you paint redundancy
Where prose pretends to stand in stanzas
Of broken sentences cloaked in nursery rhymes
Instead, express your passion and your pain
In a flowing river of vivid prismic dreams
Allow your heart to PEN the words beating deep in you
Then and only then your ink reveals its crimson hue
(jj johnson)
"Show AND Tell"
Don’t show me snapshots of pixilated faces
and vanilla homes with chocolate covered windows
In a stone cold Google street-view
Glaring through your camera clicking gaze
Snapshots won’t tell me if you have a heart that cares
Your eyes are mere windows, introduce your soul
Express emotions for the drunk in the gutter you saw lying there
Spare me your cold faux news commentary
In journalists accounts of potholes in the streets
Flooded by streams filled with empty imagery
Where a glut of meaningless metaphors pose as poetry
Paint me a painfully vivid Van Gogh
Don’t pop off plastic pics from Warhol’s bag of tricks
I’d rather you just tell me than show a painted face
That even lifeless mannequins would rather die
Than be manipulated by the ink that you portray
I’m so sick of it, so tired of photos full of holes
Bled dry of the emotion androids fail to feel
Until black and white is read all over
And over and over without a heartbeat changing pace
Like your wall of cleavage dripping selfies
Thinking you express secrets that no one else can see
Some hidden imagery declaring sex is never free
Somehow between the lines, you paint redundancy
Where prose pretends to stand in stanzas
Of broken sentences cloaked in nursery rhymes
Instead, express your passion and your pain
In a flowing river of vivid prismic dreams
Allow your heart to PEN the words beating deep in you
Then and only then your ink reveals its crimson hue
(jj johnson)
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anything creative, I think, can be described as a "poem". It doesn't even have to make sense or rhyme. Then again, one can hardly just scribble " fuck you" on a page and call it poetry.
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Non-sense, I did exactly hat. I expressed emotions with those two words most effectively. The purpose of art is to express emotion, be it in verse, paint, music, sculpture or any other art-form. Art fails when feelings are left unexpressed. This is why Van Gogh was such a great artist, his paintings bleed emotions like rain in a hurricane. JJ
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Call my stuff poetry and I'll scratch your eyes out.
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some interesting perspectives. JJ, I think Seamus Heaney talked of the dangers of becoming too political with poetry, though I suppose there is no har in recording events if one sticks to an observational stand point rather than a judgmental one.
thank you all.
Ceejay, its more about how you yourself hold poetry than where it originates. If I remember right from other discussions, the oldest recorded verses came from Aisia closely followed by the Greeks
I suppose there is a question of content. how many words constitute a poem. indeed is it possible to write a poem only using one or two words
thank you all.
Ceejay, its more about how you yourself hold poetry than where it originates. If I remember right from other discussions, the oldest recorded verses came from Aisia closely followed by the Greeks
I suppose there is a question of content. how many words constitute a poem. indeed is it possible to write a poem only using one or two words