Plagiarists (once proven): Should we ban them?

72.00% • 18 votes • Yes
28.00% • 7 votes • Yes, but only after they’ve been given a second chane
0% • 0 votes • No
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Plagiarists (once proven): Should we ban them?

poet Anonymous

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Plagiarism is unethical and illegal. Allowing someone to get away with it, because they are "popular" and pay the membership fee is inane.

poet Anonymous

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Plagiarism is the biggest insult to poets and above all poetry!

poet Anonymous

I agree with intheshadows and Rianne!  Other sites terminate plagiarists without reservation!  They must know that a leopard does not change its spots and those sites want their credibility intact!

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I agree that plagarism is shitty, But this site has always been free.

Plagarism has to be exact for example if I wrote:

The sea is black etc

Then some one wrote:

The sea is black etc

That is plagiarism. But if they wrote:

The sea is dark etc

Where do you draw the line? It has to be a word for word copy to be plagiarism.
If some one copied an entire poem the internet code could prove that.  If you can prove a code copy. Raise it with the adminstators.

Why not get a programmer to set up a code that checks for exact copies?

Then have a box that says "this has already been published" prohibiting you to continue.

Go for it at the root rather than the flower.

(No rape, no racism, those are the things I cannot tolerate.)

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I voted yes to ban, but did it too fast really (when the thread was brand new). I believe in giving second chances. Maybe third. BUT there is a difference between being actually sorry, and just sorry you got caught. It would be useful to know exactly what we were dealing with in each situation, but I guess hindsight is 20/20. One person on here has stolen from me, been banned, refused to remove the content and is now banned again. I bet she still won't remove it.

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Simple as this and I'll borrow the quote seeing as it's in the public domain: public questions





"Hullo

you were  banned because you plagerised other people's work. a deliberate act / attempt to deceive your fellow colleagues. a chance was given some months ago.. you continued

as a result your account is flagged for suspension / delete"

you'll find the full exchange in the pubiic questions (as I understand it)


As it stands our policy is to afford / gift the offender a chance to redeem him or her or themselves

after that the proses proceeds. it may not be lightening quick but it will be finite



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Wafflenose said:I voted yes to ban, but did it too fast really (when the thread was brand new). I believe in giving second chances. Maybe third. BUT there is a difference between being actually sorry, and just sorry you got caught. It would be useful to know exactly what we were dealing with in each situation, but I guess hindsight is 20/20. One person on here has stolen from me, been banned, refused to remove the content and is now banned again. I bet she still won't remove it.

The account in question on this particular one, has been removed .  We work as fast as we can, but there are time zone differences between all the mods, so it can be a number of days, where we go back and forth in discussions, before taking any actions.

poet Anonymous

MadameLavender said:

The account in question on this particular one, has been removed .  We work as fast as we can, but there are time zone differences between all the mods, so it can be a number of days, where we go back and forth in discussions, before taking any actions.


The few Mods available to review these cases is a huge and understandable factor!  My question is, Does a leopard change its spots?  Once a thief, the character of that person becomes obvious.  The most recent plagiarist deleted a number of pieces after he was caught...they were likely stolen too! If the theft of words is obvious, no second chance!

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Thank you, ML.

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Aloysius Percival Plago you have been found guilty by a jury of your peers of this most heinous of online offences.
In addition, you have asked me to consider various occasions when you downloaded music, movies and pornographic material and watched soccer using a VPN without rendering remuneration to the rightful owners,
However, I take into account that these lesser thefts bear no comparison to stealing poetic material, posting it elsewhere and passing it off as your own work, in the feeble misguided hope of receiving plaudits from your online acquaintances.  
The internet must be protected at all costs and it is my duty therefore to ban you from all online activity for a period of one year and I must further warn you that any related subsequent offence will automatically result in a lifetime ban with the word PLAGO being inked in black capital letters, indelibly upon your forehead.

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PoetWarrior said:

The few Mods available to review these cases is a huge and understandable factor!  My question is, Does a leopard change its spots?  Once a thief, the character of that person becomes obvious.  The most recent plagiarist deleted a number of pieces after he was caught...they were likely stolen too! If the theft of words is obvious, no second chance!



Did Saul of Tarsus, who hunted and killed those who believed in God,  become Paul the Apostle, disciple of Jesus , who helped kick start the foundations of modern day Christianity and ended up dying a martyr himself ?

Spots don't define a leopard on the inside just as anything exterior on humans, doesn't define who we are beyond what our outsides look like.  It's the internal "spots" or places, that need to, can, sometimes do and sometimes don't, change.

The bigger question here, is:  does every one of us, deserve a second chance to right our wrongs?  Or simply, does the leopard deserve the chance to change its (internal) spots (places)?

If Saul the murderer got that chance and made good on it, then what about plagiarists here?  Not all of them made good on their second chance they were given, so judgements were made and corrective actions were taken.  You reap what you sow, whatever it is you sow, good or bad, and wherever you sow it


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Yep.  

poet Anonymous

Some here think it's okay to steal. Our criminal justice system does NOT agree. If you voted to give thieves a second chance, I'd like the keys to your car---I'll steal it and you'll forgive me.....right?

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