Plagiarists (once proven): Should we ban them?

70.83% • 17 votes • Yes
29.17% • 7 votes • Yes, but only after they’ve been given a second chane
0% • 0 votes • No
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Plagiarists (once proven): Should we ban them?

poet Anonymous

...and how about the PERVERTS on dup?  Will this site condone them?  Is this a poetry site or a filth dump?  Removing the slime would go a long way toward bring back credibility to the site!

poet Anonymous

[quote-557709-MadameLavender]We always do give plagiarists a second chance-- when we get notified, we contact them and request that they remove anything that doesn't belong to them.  If they ignore it, we remove the content and ban them.  If they keep plagiarizing after the ban, then their account gets terminated.

That's why it may look like we aren't addressing it or taking too long in resolving it, but there's a lot of waiting involved -- member in question has to log in to see communications, time zone differences between moderators, etc.[/quote

Plagiarists who have been discovered with MULTIPLE THEFTS of others' words SHOULD BE BANNED!

Wafflenose
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I'm happy to give them a chance to remove the content and mend their ways. Sadly, repeat offenders seem to have no intention of doing so. How many chances do they actually get?

poet Anonymous

Wafflenose said:I'm happy to give them a chance to remove the content and mend their ways. Sadly, repeat offenders seem to have no intention of doing so. How many chances do they actually get?

ONCE A THIEF, ALWAYS A THIEF!  Throw the bums out...or lose the site's credibility!

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PoetWarrior said:[quote-557709-MadameLavender]

Plagiarists who have been discovered with MULTIPLE THEFTS of others' words SHOULD BE BANNED!


They do get banned but a ban does not eliminate their account, it takes away certain account functions for a set time, then restores the function when the ban times out.  A suspension closes and erases their account if the ban doesn't get the point across to correct the bad behavior.

As for your perverts comment-- same thing applied.

Over all , you guys all need to hit the report button on stuff you see that ain't cool, around here.  If there's no button, you need to write in via the help /ask a question section , tell what's going on and provide links to where it's happening.

Chattering amongst yourselves by pm , doesn't alert us to problems. Mods can't see anyone's inbox except our own.  If we don't know, we can't fix it, and that's not on the mods for not doing our jobs if we don't know that something is going on.  That's on you (collective "you")  for not telling us.

We will address it as soon as a mod logs in-- we don't get paid to do this , it's all volunteer, and we have jobs and lives to attend to first , before an extracurricular website.

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Although improbable,
It is possible to type random words on a typewriter and come up with somebody else's poem. This actually happened during a three word poem competition where a few folks cried foul.

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rabbitquest said:Although improbable,
It is possible to type random words on a typewriter and come up with somebody else's poem. This actually happened during a three word poem competition where a few folks cried foul.


A more minimal take on the Infinite Monkey Theory. A monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type any given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare. It’s all about monkey & Shakespeare. Didn't you just know it? And that seems an appropriate moment to exit this thread. Stage left.

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There's three words... and then there's stealing someone else's profile, using entire verses from well-known songs, complete memes, famous sayings by statesmen and -women... catch my drift?

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MadameLavender said:

They do get banned but a ban does not eliminate their account, it takes away certain account functions for a set time, then restores the function when the ban times out.  A suspension closes and erases their account if the ban doesn't get the point across to correct the bad behavior.

As for your perverts comment-- same thing applied.

Over all , you guys all need to hit the report button on stuff you see that ain't cool, around here.  If there's no button, you need to write in via the help /ask a question section , tell what's going on and provide links to where it's happening.

Chattering amongst yourselves by pm , doesn't alert us to problems. Mods can't see anyone's inbox except our own.  If we don't know, we can't fix it, and that's not on the mods for not doing our jobs if we don't know that something is going on.  That's on you (collective "you")  for not telling us.

We will address it as soon as a mod logs in-- we don't get paid to do this , it's all volunteer, and we have jobs and lives to attend to first , before an extracurricular website.


THAT is more than fair! The Mods can't scrutinize each contribution!  It IS up to other poets to report.  My question is, why is the offender only "banned" and not "terminated"? Does a leopard change its spots?

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Also, to clarify: how many times can a member be asked to remove stolen content, do so, remain a member... and do it all over again? I'm going to fund it hard to trust aome people in future, which is sad.

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PoetWarrior said:

THAT is more than fair! The Mods can't scrutinize each contribution!  It IS up to other poets to report.  My question is, why is the offender only "banned" and not "terminated"? Does a leopard change its spots?


We have to enact a ban first to be able to set up for an account suspension.  The website configuration doesn't give the terminate option until a ban is in place.

People can redeem themselves -- if God, himself, can give second chances, then shouldn't we humans, try the same?  Yeah, there does come a point when chances run out, if the person(s) in question refuse to smarten up, but at least we did the honorable thing on our part, by extending an olive branch and it can't be said that we/us are guilty of acting like thugs on a power trip with the delete button.  

To address the issue of multiple bans and why it seems like sometimes it just goes in a cycle with no resolution:  there are 5 mods here, all in different time zones around the world, and it sometimes happens that if a ban expires, another mod logs in after that, sees a problem & sets a ban which ends up as a re-ban, for not seeing the original one because it drops off the list.  We usually communicate it to each other when one of us takes an action , but occasionally things fall through the cracks.  

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Plagiarism is a crime – that is a fact.
From plagiarism.org: Most cases of plagiarism are considered misdemeanors, punishable by fines of anywhere between $100 and $50,000 — and up to one year in jail. Plagiarism can also be considered a felony under certain state and federal laws

Other poetry sites have much more stricter rules for plagiarism. This site has none, Which ever and what ever the rules are about this or any topic should be clear to all members

poet Anonymous

Rianne said:Plagiarism is a crime – that is a fact.
From plagiarism.org: Most cases of plagiarism are considered misdemeanors, punishable by fines of anywhere between $100 and $50,000 — and up to one year in jail. Plagiarism can also be considered a felony under certain state and federal laws

Other poetry sites have much more stricter rules for plagiarism. This site has none, Which ever and what ever the rules are about this or any topic should be clear to all members


You are so right!  Plagiarism is the worst thing that can happen to a writer and the worst fraud that may be committed on writers!  It should also be mandatory that all art and photographs posted should receive attribution!

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"Plagiarists" take what you will, because you will anyway. I no longer notice.

I used to care.

I didn't vote.


poet Anonymous

People forgive and forget. Popularity and bonded friendships win.

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