Plagiarists (once proven): Should we ban them?

70.83% • 17 votes • Yes
29.17% • 7 votes • Yes, but only after they’ve been given a second chane
0% • 0 votes • No
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Plagiarists (once proven): Should we ban them?

Casted_Runes
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Mr Karswell
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Thought it would be interesting to gauge the view of the user base.

EvanescentSirius21
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Plagirism is inevitable, as you rightly quote Bloom, who I'm sure, in the spirit of his message, is quoting someone else - as I recall, it may have been Oscar Wilde, who characerised the writings of others in the minds of aspiring upstarts, as glowing petals to be plucked and collected in an assembled boquet of stolen ideas. But make no mistake, the difference lies between that knowing and unknowing distinction Bloom hints at - to fail in differentiating here is to snub the very sensibilities that the poetic instinct is heir to (at the risk of contradiction I confess, that was a rather bare faced pickpocketing of the great bard just there). We write poetry through our love of poetry. Let that love extend to poets I say, and let their credits be given where due.  

Strangeways_Rob
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EvanescentSirius21 said:Plagirism is inevitable, as you rightly quote Bloom, who I'm sure, in the spirit of his message, is quoting someone else - as I recall, it may have been Oscar Wilde, who characerised the writings of others in the minds of aspiring upstarts, as glowing petals to be plucked and collected in an assembled boquet of stolen ideas. But make no mistake, the difference lies between that knowing and unknowing distinction Bloom hints at - to fail in differentiating here is to snub the very sensibilities that the poetic instinct is heir to (at the risk of contradiction I confess, that was a rather bare faced pickpocketing of the great bard just there). We write poetry through our love of poetry. Let that love extend to poets I say, and let their credits be given where due.  

Everyone could use Wilde's "talent borrows, genius steals" too. There is a non-subtle difference between inspiration and tearing the guts out of the work of another. F that. Many writers on here put their lives into their scribbles. I don't care if they are considered good, bad or indifferent poems, as long as they are an honest and truthful expressions of the writer. Anyway, social media sites are subject to same copyright laws as the real world. Solicitors won't be interested in any (however unlikely) aesthetic reasons.  

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Yeah, the "genius steals" argument is basically a tool used in bad faith to cloud the issue of plagiarism when used as a defence of such. I'm sure that Wilde would have found it a bit cheeky if someone had rubbed his name off the top of The Importance of Being Earnest and written Sally Higgins instead.

What the argument refers to is the necessity of what came before you, what Bloom called the anxiety of influence, where you fall in love with voices and ideas while trying to find your own. Shakespeare "stole" his plots from history, the Bible, popular legends, and even generic stories shared between playwrights of the time (before copyright and intellectual property were understood as they are now), but his audience knew that and went to the plays to see him retell those tales in his unique voice.

poet Anonymous

Is there someone on the site we should be aware of?

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Yep. There is someone who keeps stealing from everyone else's profiles to make herself sound more interesting and cultured. I hope she's reading this.

poet Anonymous

I do to. I don't like plagiarists.

poet Anonymous

Ban plagiarists? Most certainly. BUT you must have conclusive proof first.
This site should ban anyone who misrepresents "porn" as "erotica" and (especially) those who post work about incest.

Wafflenose
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The more evidence I find, the angrier I'm getting. Reported x4 tonight and I hope she gets banned for good.

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Turns out most of 'her' work isn't hers either. I HATE being lied to.

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Wafflenose said:Turns out most of 'her' work isn't hers either. I HATE being lied to.

So do I wafflenose. I've posted her name and some examples of her plagiarism. I'm not afraid to call them out. Let the mods throw me off, I don't care.

She probably copied quotes from online. One example:
38-Your smile my best friend (poem)

our smile is the flower for which love is the honey
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/682506518506262164/

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She has been pasting together bits of my profile and other people's, too. I've reported her several times, both privately and publicly. I'm not ashamed to have my name associated with doing the right thing.

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Wafflenose said:She has been pasting together bits of my profile and other people's, too. I've reported her several times, both privately and publicly. I'm not ashamed to have my name associated with doing the right thing.

Nor am I. I hate knowing what I'm reading was stolen from someone else.

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Loads copied from other poetry sites, singers, songwriters and even Audrey Hepburn.

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Wafflenose said:Loads copied from other poetry sites, singers, songwriters and even Audrey Hepburn.

Yes, she used to plagiarize country songs.

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