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I donít want there to be any pressure or homework or anything like that, so Iím not going to regiment the reading. Letís start reading now, go at your own pace, share your thoughts in this thread, and if you all think itís a good idea I might even start a poetry thread based on the book (i.e. poems from the perspective of the murderer/victim).

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The_Silly_Sibyl said:I donít want there to be any pressure or homework or anything like that, so Iím not going to regiment the reading. Letís start reading now, go at your own pace, share your thoughts in this thread, and if you all think itís a good idea I might even start a poetry thread based on the book (i.e. poems from the perspective of the murderer/victim).

ay alright sounds good 👍🏻 i guess my reasoning was that being me i would either finish the book in 2 days and ruin it for everyone or forget about it for a month 😂 a poetry thread could be reall y good

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anna_grin said:

ay alright sounds good 👍🏻 i guess my reasoning was that being me i would either finish the book in 2 days and ruin it for everyone or forget about it for a month 😂 a poetry thread could be reall y good


I hadnít thought about spoilers. Maybe discuss it chapter by chapter and put spoiler warnings where you feel theyíre appropriate?

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The_Silly_Sibyl said:

I hadnít thought about spoilers. Maybe discuss it chapter by chapter and put spoiler warnings where you feel theyíre appropriate?


thatís a fair shout, tbh my copyís not even arrived yet so I am getting ahead of myself

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Umm said:"I have never really got used to being on earth. Sometimes I think our presence here is due to a cosmic blunder, that we were meant for another planet altogether, with other arrangements, and other laws, and other, grimmer skies. I try to imagine it, our true place, off on the far side of the galaxy, whirling and whirling. And the ones who were meant for here, are they out there, baffled and homesick, like us? No, they would have become extinct long ago. How could they survive, these gentle earthlings, in a world that was made to contain us?"

- John Banville, The Book of Evidence


That quote reminds me of this one from Thomas Hardy's Tess of the d'Urbervilles:

"Did you say the stars were worlds, Tess?"

"Yes."

"All like ours?"

"I don't know; but I think so. They sometimes seem to be like the apples on our stubbard-tree. Most of them splendid and sound--a few blighted."

"Which do we live on--a splendid one or a blighted one?"

"A blighted one."

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I love when that happens,.. When one discovers such a unique link between two separate works <3

I will start the book soon, will try to keep track of my thoughts about it as I read 📖😌

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ITS HERE ITS HERE
THE BOOK OF EVIDENCE IS IN MY HAND
LET THE TRIAL BEGIN

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anna_grin said:ITS HERE ITS HERE
THE BOOK OF EVIDENCE IS IN MY HAND
LET THE TRIAL BEGIN


Hope you like it Iíll be beginning my copy today


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Iíll be starting it today and Iím planning to journal my thoughts here, nothing too a level English just my impressions, so there will be spoilers


.... though i think i might be the only one in the group whoís not already read it

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Looks like everyone is starting, so I will as well ☀️😊

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anna_grin said:Iíll be starting it today and Iím planning to journal my thoughts here, nothing too a level English just my impressions, so there will be spoilers


.... though i think i might be the only one in the group whoís not already read it


I haven't read it either, though I've been meaning to for years. I've read one of the authorís other books, a continuation Philip Marlowe detective novel called The Black-Eyed Blonde.

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chapter one

our narrator is an asshole. arrogant with an affected self-effacure and a conscious lack of empathy he pretends to slowly discover rather than admit to even himself he has known himself well all along. what surprises me is how like an ordinary man he sounds. this is no American psycho. he is measuredly in control of his... condition. the condition of being a murderer. i fully expect the appeals to ďyour honourĒ to fade as he drops the act that he is doing anything other than masturbating to the sound of his own voice


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I agree with you, anna_grin. Iíve now read the opening and what strikes me is the narcissism in the narrative voice, as well as the dark humour and cynicism of the general narration. I was surprised by what a visceral and powerful portrait of prison life you get. The depressing quality sunlight has when it reaches the prison yard, the smells and the schoolboy-like nattering about parcels. I was amused by the use of the term ďcatamiteĒ, an old Greek word for young male lover of an older man, in reference to the idea that he should start sleeping with another inmate (or prison wife, in modern parlance). Yet although thereís humour itís also deeply upsetting, like when he describes hopeless addicts with vacant eyes.

Regarding his depiction of his wife, Daphne, I found it interesting that he says he finds their lovemaking most exciting when she appears to be at her most vulnerable and ďlostĒ. Hints of a predatory nature?

Favourite line thus far:

ďDo you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Don't make me laugh.Ē


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i think i missed that part about catamite, though itís heavily implied i didnít know the meaning or origin of the word. he thinks heís got a wry humour and he does a bit but his narcissism makes it barbed with a lack of genuine credibility.  

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How are people getting on with reading this?

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