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butters said:that sounds pretty much like you're a catcher, or maybe purely a facilitator of stuff coming up and out onto page.

I don't know the term "catcher" , per se ,
yet I have an idea of what it could mean ;

And yes , "spirit" speaks through me , and
I act as the medium for it's expression ;

It just seems to flow out , at least 99% of the time...

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Blackwolf said:

I don't know the term "catcher" , per se ,
yet I have an idea of what it could mean ;

And yes , "spirit" speaks through me , and
I act as the medium for it's expression ;

It just seems to flow out , at least 99% of the time...
like butterflies hatching from the chrysalis of your skin, poems coming out virtually fully-formed, with you having little to do except 'catch' them.. then show them at their prettiest

these lines are more how poetry is in me:

there's a poem under my skin -
slippery, demanding,
unformed and mobile under pressure

—makes my mind itch


in me, it's something that burrows its way up, makes my mind itch when it's almost ready. cutting myself open for it doesn't work—not for me. for others it does. maybe i'm a lazy writer.

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butters said:but *whines* "how", J, how?

do you go in for it or wait for it to come out? some people are unadulterated diggers and tunnelers... others, they wait till an idea hatches, catch it and use it. do you go hunting ideas internally?  i'm not talking about the ideas we grab from the diaphanous air around us; this is about the inside stuff.


It starts out with a raw idea and I think, That's Poem-Worthy.

And then I just start writing. As the thing being formed occupies my thoughts, it attracts other thoughts through association. Which probably explains why I lean heavily on rhymes. So it is more akin to rolling a snowball down hill, gaining momentum and mass.

On some occasions, I'll get a lengthy fully formed poem within minutes. Otherwise I mostly consciously construct the darn things from a few scraps to start off with.

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butters said:and after that? are you an equal-ops tunneler/catcher? if you go in deep, is it a more taxing experience?

I don't know how to answer that; I don't do anything—tunnel or catch.

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JohnnyBlaze said:

It starts out with a raw idea and I think, That's Poem-Worthy.

And then I just start writing. As the thing being formed occupies my thoughts, it attracts other thoughts through association. Which probably explains why I lean heavily on rhymes. So it is more akin to rolling a snowball down hill, gaining momentum and mass.

On some occasions, I'll get a lengthy fully formed poem within minutes. Otherwise I mostly consciously construct the darn things from a few scraps to start off with.
sounds like you're more of a catcher, then; i can just see your 'net'

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Ahavati said:

I don't know how to answer that; I don't do anything—tunnel or catch.
hmmmn... do you sit and prepare then open the conduits? is everything from external sources??  you said before that you have to have no expectations: so is that expectations something will rise to the surface?

tell me how it works for you... i'm seeing ripples on a pool

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Anonymous said:<< post removed >>hi, dhyana, was just reading the meaning of your username over in the comp threads glad to see you writing.

when you say 'I can tap into', does that make you a seeker, a tunneler? it sounds a deliberate, concscious action to get in touch with the 'thing' inside.. or does it feel more like an opening of your mind and allowing it out?

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Anonymous said:<< post removed >>but fascinating to listen to

i do not know how you empaths manage to get through the day, sometimes... like living other lives at the same time as your own via the auspices of empathy. although i have some traits, i don't see myself as anything like the full-empath you, and others here, are. it must be so exhausting. i can 'do' people' and 'crowds' and socialising, to an extent... then i have to bow out and reclaim myself.

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Anonymous said:<< post removed >>

That's the gift, isn't it?  The curse is knowing when no one else does, and not being able to prove it.

Butters, if I can come up with adequate words I will explain.  It may be something to just experience.

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butters said:sounds like you're more of a catcher, then; i can just see your 'net'

I guess I see myself as a builder more than anything; I'm putting all this stuff together with tricks of the trade I've picked up over the years.

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Master Builder ^

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Ahavati said:Master Builder ^

That sounds more flattering than "Jack of all trades, master of none".

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