the line break IS the punctuation

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the line break IS the punctuation

anna_grin
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dearest,

in a minimalist sense: the lack of a specific punctuation form and yet the clear suggestion of one via a line break

it is a punctuation mark

is it not?

SatansSperm
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I totally  agree...most of my writing is that way

Umm
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(in my opinion) A line break is a line break and punctuation is punctuation. Punctuation can be used to change the pace of a poem in ways line breaks can't.. and if a writer knows what they're doing, it can add a lot to it. Here's a good example...



What the Angels Left
by Marie Howe


At first, the scissors seemed perfectly harmless.
They lay on the kitchen table in the blue light.

Then I began to notice them all over the house,
at night in the pantry, or filling up bowls in the cellar

where there should have been apples. They appeared under rugs,
lumpy places where one would usually settle before the fire,

or suddenly shining in the sink at the bottom of soupy water.
Once, I found a pair in the garden, stuck in turned dirt

among the new bulbs, and one night, under my pillow,
I felt something like a cool long tooth and pulled them out

to lie next to me in the dark. Soon after that I began
to collect them, filling boxes, old shopping bags,

every suitcase I owned. I grew slightly uncomfortable
when company came. What if someone noticed them

when looking for forks or replacing dried dishes? I longed
to throw them out, but how could I get rid of something

that felt oddly like grace? It occurred to me finally
that I was meant to use them, and I resisted a growing compulsion

to cut my hair, although in moments of great distraction,
I thought it was my eyes they wanted, or my soft belly

—exhausted, in winter, I laid them out on the lawn.
The snow fell quite as usual, without any apparent hesitation

or discomfort. In spring, as expected, they were gone.
In their place, a slight metallic smell, and the dear muddy earth.

crimsin
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I use the line break as my punctuation often
I feel overly using punctuation stilts my poems
I want them to flow together cohesively...

anna_grin
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what you've done there is enjambment pal and i know what it is but i will still tend to disagree.

edited because overkill

edited because what my argument actually is is that the absence of punctuation is punctuation in itself; there may be other forms of punctuation in the poem as well.  i don't hate grammar i just dont always use it all

Blackwolf
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P.U.N. ' C ; T"U" ? Ation !

archetype23
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What......is this    -------------madness?  

anna_grin
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i was awake and alone at 1am and this seemed important

Blackwolf
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There is madness to these methods !

Blackwolf
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anna_grin said:i was awake and alone at 1am and this seemed important

I remember those nights , from when I was younger...

Normally though , it was when I was on a psychedelic , Anna...


anna_grin
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Blackwolf said:

I remember those nights , from when I was younger...

Normally though , it was when I was on a psychedelic , Anna...



it might be this tea
or my odd shaped brain

Blackwolf
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As I have said I believe ,

somewhere else before ,

geometrics define consciousness...

As for tea :

The image speaks for itself

lepperochan
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anna_grin said:

what my argument actually is is that the absence of punctuation is punctuation in itself


tend to agree. by intent or  un-intent: the end of a line gives a reader cause to pause. thusley acting in a way punctuation would if it were there. no brainer

Umm
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anna_grin said:

edited because what my argument actually is is that the absence of punctuation is punctuation in itself; there may be other forms of punctuation in the poem as well.  i don't hate grammar i just dont always use it all


I kind of agree

edit: I think line breaks can be used as punctuation in a limited sense  

anna_grin
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all this validation
i knew I was right
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