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How do you judge a mental problem?

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freddwzz
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@rachel

because even science doesn't know the "balance" how can they know what's "imbalance".
have already cited sources in my other replies.
anyway I'm delusional, no point arguing with a mad men right? so I'm out, peace.

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rayheinrich
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@freddwzz: OK, you're right, I'm officially changing your
diagnosis from:
"deluded": deceived, fooled
to
"delusional": holding a strong belief despite superior
evidence to the contrary:

http://www.bipolar-lives.com/images/innerviews.jpg

More pictures and info here:
http://www.bipolar-lives.com/bipolar-brain-imaging.html

@Eamon: NICE poster! (never knew the thing about the foreskin)

@Sublime: Yes, I too am appalled at the seemingly massive
ignorance of mental illness exhibited here. People aren't
actually THAT stupid, there's another reason, what's the
word for it? fieryangelsouljia would know it...
oh, right: 'denial'.

P.S. And yes, Rachel..., while the discovery of the atom may
still be years off mental-illness-wise, at least the world isn't flat
any more. (But where's my dark matter? Maybe it really IS flat.)

o.k. now i'm ready to flirt with gg...

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CruelHandedWriter
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A round of applause.

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CruelHandedWriter said:A round of applause.

Agreed

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Ray, if you mess with my GiGi, I'm going to have to take you ↓
I hope I have made this clear to you. ;)

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rayheinrich said:@freddwzz: OK, you're right, I'm officially changing your
diagnosis from:
"deluded": deceived, fooled
to
"delusional": holding a strong belief despite superior
evidence to the contrary:



More pictures and info here:
http://www.bipolar-lives.com/bipolar-brain-imaging.html

@Eamon: NICE poster! (never knew the thing about the foreskin)

@Sublime: Yes, I too am appalled at the seemingly massive
ignorance of mental illness exhibited here. People aren't
actually THAT stupid, there's another reason, what's the
word for it? fieryangelsouljia would know it...
oh, right: 'denial'.

P.S. And yes, Rachel..., while the discovery of the atom may
still be years off mental-illness-wise, at least the world isn't flat
any more. (But where's my dark matter? Maybe it really IS flat.)

o.k. now i'm ready to flirt with gg...


Alright Ray!!!

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@Ray

Thanks for showing me different types of brains when they're on different states but i have yet to see the "balance".

http://education.jhu.edu/sebin/n/r/Tokuhama5.3.8.png

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwUn64d5Ddk <-- surely a crazy brain

And from your image, the "normal" brain example is totally circumstantial, you can compare a "psychopath" brainscan and someone who is normal in society and they can be the same in a resting state.

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rayheinrich said:  Gee, judging that is easy for me. I look in my med box:
 If I've taken mine, they're crazy; if not, they're not.

P.S. I like fieryangelsouljia's "quality of logical connections"
technique. This works pretty well. Of course, if you stick to the
results of this technique you'll be classifying 'religion' as
mental illness. Just sayin'...

P.P.S. Rachel... is right, freddwzz is deluded (not delusional,
just deluded). There are very real scientific tests that can
diagnose some forms of mental illness. In the future there will
be many more. But yes, the current ambiguities encourage abuse
of diagnoses for political, cultural, and commer$ial reasons
(e.g. diagnosing homosexuality as a mental disease and
everything as depression).  

P.P.P.S. Though if 'they' start slipping notes like this under
your door, you should probably seek help:



Image from Frontier Psychiatrist:  http://frontierpsychiatrist.co.uk/
(nice blog BTW)


P.P.P.P.S. For those who read the whole note:
Doesn't sound that crazy, does it?

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1dArlingnicky said:Here's one way: Engage in crush forums and dare to enter into one of my threadwork. It'll open your puny mind so much to panview the entire universe of the human psychology.

hmmmm.... I'll remember that

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Let him who is without prejudice cast judement on others.

jj

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Mental problem presupposses there is a solution.
That their mental state is not engaging with the world in an effective way. Such as milking a cow to achieve world peace without stating why; more milk in the world, for people to drink to keep hydrated to stay clam to avoid violence and therein war.

Mental disorders presuppose a set of acceptable or 'right' states of mentality. They have a disorder when their interactions with the world result in pain or suffering of other such 'bad' things that society wishes to avoid, that individuals often do not consent to.

I judge someone 'mental' when their behaviour changes radically (over time and instantly) and it does not change back and can not change back. When their way of being is a problem to them. I equate genius with insanity; both depart from the 'normal' and status quo with the line differing over the outcome. A genius impacts upon the world in a beneficial way, while a 'crazy person' impacts in an unbeneficial way. Though this is customisable to the specific case.

When a person gives absolutely everything away to charity, they could well be called crazy. But bear in mind they are also extremely altruistic as well. Crazy and Genius are just two sides of the Quantum dodecahedron that is 'Life'.

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Viddax said:Mental problem presupposses there is a solution.
That their mental state is not engaging with the world in an effective way. Such as milking a cow to achieve world peace without stating why; more milk in the world, for people to drink to keep hydrated to stay clam to avoid violence and therein war.

Mental disorders presuppose a set of acceptable or 'right' states of mentality. They have a disorder when their interactions with the world result in pain or suffering of other such 'bad' things that society wishes to avoid, that individuals often do not consent to.

I judge someone 'mental' when their behaviour changes radically (over time and instantly) and it does not change back and can not change back. When their way of being is a problem to them. I equate genius with insanity; both depart from the 'normal' and status quo with the line differing over the outcome. A genius impacts upon the world in a beneficial way, while a 'crazy person' impacts in an unbeneficial way. Though this is customisable to the specific case.

When a person gives absolutely everything away to charity, they could well be called crazy. But bear in mind they are also extremely altruistic as well. Crazy and Genius are just two sides of the Quantum dodecahedron that is 'Life'.
If only more people looked at it like that...

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Viddax said:Mental problem presupposses there is a solution.
That their mental state is not engaging with the world in an effective way. Such as milking a cow to achieve world peace without stating why; more milk in the world, for people to drink to keep hydrated to stay clam to avoid violence and therein war.

Mental disorders presuppose a set of acceptable or 'right' states of mentality. They have a disorder when their interactions with the world result in pain or suffering of other such 'bad' things that society wishes to avoid, that individuals often do not consent to.

I judge someone 'mental' when their behaviour changes radically (over time and instantly) and it does not change back and can not change back. When their way of being is a problem to them. I equate genius with insanity; both depart from the 'normal' and status quo with the line differing over the outcome. A genius impacts upon the world in a beneficial way, while a 'crazy person' impacts in an unbeneficial way. Though this is customisable to the specific case.

When a person gives absolutely everything away to charity, they could well be called crazy. But bear in mind they are also extremely altruistic as well. Crazy and Genius are just two sides of the Quantum dodecahedron that is 'Life'.


Very well said.

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