Humanity: Good or Bad? Balanced, or Not?
What do you guys think about humanity... and human nature?
is it good ?
(for the better of all)
bad?
(corruptness & what not)
Is the "evils" & the "goods"
balanced in current society & people of all?
The HUMANS.
We live through our minds...
our own body,
therefore, it is only natural we think for ourselves
(no matter how many would deny, it is true)
it is our human, animal , natural instinct that we survive.
It is purely in other's points of view...
or...
a limit...
of what's corrupt, and what's not?
is it good ?
(for the better of all)
bad?
(corruptness & what not)
Is the "evils" & the "goods"
balanced in current society & people of all?
The HUMANS.
We live through our minds...
our own body,
therefore, it is only natural we think for ourselves
(no matter how many would deny, it is true)
it is our human, animal , natural instinct that we survive.
It is purely in other's points of view...
or...
a limit...
of what's corrupt, and what's not?
controlled, I'd say. what with everything and such. you may protest and deny, but its futile to do either. every thing has you. trafic lights only have to change colour ffs ..money, stuff, more stuff
identity card, driving card, passport, trade card, bank card etc
not to mention tv , ok I'll mention it. ..tv.
work, tax, car, insurance, other stuff, even more stuff
Social media,
you feel how they want you to feel. well done everybody. they want you to feel proud.
humanity ha, don't make me laugh. farmers destroyed humanity way back when the first farmers started farming
after that: pft the beckon hand of kings and queens, of Gods and rockstars, and footballers who cry when they lose
humanity was sold for lots of corn n shit.
identity card, driving card, passport, trade card, bank card etc
not to mention tv , ok I'll mention it. ..tv.
work, tax, car, insurance, other stuff, even more stuff
Social media,
you feel how they want you to feel. well done everybody. they want you to feel proud.
humanity ha, don't make me laugh. farmers destroyed humanity way back when the first farmers started farming
after that: pft the beckon hand of kings and queens, of Gods and rockstars, and footballers who cry when they lose
humanity was sold for lots of corn n shit.
lepperochan said:
humanity ha, don't make me laugh. farmers destroyed humanity way back when the first farmers started farming
First there were the hunter gatherers, back in the day when all were nomads who evolved into farmers. They realised they could farm right there on the land they stood on, and started building their little villages, where everyone lived in the same size hut. There were no kings, rule, slavery etc, until they evolved some more, and the control freaks and bullies started to manifest and took farming to another level, introducing leaders and such. They couldn't even read or write, but still managed to become a bunch of arseholes.
Farmers did destroy humanity, but most of humanity were farmers back then.
humanity ha, don't make me laugh. farmers destroyed humanity way back when the first farmers started farming
First there were the hunter gatherers, back in the day when all were nomads who evolved into farmers. They realised they could farm right there on the land they stood on, and started building their little villages, where everyone lived in the same size hut. There were no kings, rule, slavery etc, until they evolved some more, and the control freaks and bullies started to manifest and took farming to another level, introducing leaders and such. They couldn't even read or write, but still managed to become a bunch of arseholes.
Farmers did destroy humanity, but most of humanity were farmers back then.
Magdalena said:
First there were the hunter gatherers, back in the day when all were nomads who evolved into farmers. They realised they could farm right there on the land they stood on, and started building their little villages, where everyone lived in the same size hut. There were no kings, rule, slavery etc, until they evolved some more, and the control freaks and bullies started to manifest and took farming to another level, introducing leaders and such. They couldn't even read or write, but still managed to become a bunch of arseholes.
Farmers did destroy humanity, but most of humanity were farmers back then.
Or, to quote the succinct words of a past, left-wing, sociology teacher of mine, the inequalities started "as soon as there was a division of labour and an accumulation of wealth".
First there were the hunter gatherers, back in the day when all were nomads who evolved into farmers. They realised they could farm right there on the land they stood on, and started building their little villages, where everyone lived in the same size hut. There were no kings, rule, slavery etc, until they evolved some more, and the control freaks and bullies started to manifest and took farming to another level, introducing leaders and such. They couldn't even read or write, but still managed to become a bunch of arseholes.
Farmers did destroy humanity, but most of humanity were farmers back then.
Or, to quote the succinct words of a past, left-wing, sociology teacher of mine, the inequalities started "as soon as there was a division of labour and an accumulation of wealth".
The concepts of "good" and "bad" do not technically exist. A politician may do something they view as being "good", while some citizens may view it as "bad". A person who wins the lottery may find the sudden influx of money to be good, but over time, that money may cause legal or personal problems. Good and bad are all about perception. Nothing is good or bad for everyone.
SourMelon0313 said:What do you guys think about humanity... and human nature?
is it good ?
(for the better of all)
bad?
(corruptness & what not)
People do dumb things, make mistakes, and can easily justify doing bad things if it suits them...and when uninformed
.. an example of this is the following thing i read:
"During the middle ages, disease and especially mental illness was seen from a religious perspective, with the devil being a major player. ...As such, metal illness did not exist. What existed was the devil working through individuals. (This view continued in Europe until the 1800s, especially among the less educated.)
One of the classic books in this genre was the Malleus Maleficarum (The Hammer of the Witches), published in the 1480s. This book was written by two German priests and approved by the pope. It went through a number of editions and became the handbook of the Inquisition. It explained how witches existed and flew through the air as well as how they should be tortured if they did not confess. In a "catch-22," the captured witches were tied to a device and lowered into cold water. If they floated, they were thought to be possessed by the devil and most likely then killed by hanging or fire. If they sank to the bottom and drowned then they were innocent
Although the writers of the time did not understand the nature of psychopathology, they did describe in some detail particular characteristics of different disorders including bipolar disorder, depression, and such psychotic processes as hallucinations and delusions." - William J. Ray
..These people genuinely believed in the devil and thought they were doing the right thing by torturing and murdering individuals suffering from psychological disorders.. and at the time, it was probably considered good to do so.
The more we discover and the more informed people are, the better we will be at being good
is it good ?
(for the better of all)
bad?
(corruptness & what not)
People do dumb things, make mistakes, and can easily justify doing bad things if it suits them...and when uninformed
.. an example of this is the following thing i read:
"During the middle ages, disease and especially mental illness was seen from a religious perspective, with the devil being a major player. ...As such, metal illness did not exist. What existed was the devil working through individuals. (This view continued in Europe until the 1800s, especially among the less educated.)
One of the classic books in this genre was the Malleus Maleficarum (The Hammer of the Witches), published in the 1480s. This book was written by two German priests and approved by the pope. It went through a number of editions and became the handbook of the Inquisition. It explained how witches existed and flew through the air as well as how they should be tortured if they did not confess. In a "catch-22," the captured witches were tied to a device and lowered into cold water. If they floated, they were thought to be possessed by the devil and most likely then killed by hanging or fire. If they sank to the bottom and drowned then they were innocent
Although the writers of the time did not understand the nature of psychopathology, they did describe in some detail particular characteristics of different disorders including bipolar disorder, depression, and such psychotic processes as hallucinations and delusions." - William J. Ray
..These people genuinely believed in the devil and thought they were doing the right thing by torturing and murdering individuals suffering from psychological disorders.. and at the time, it was probably considered good to do so.
The more we discover and the more informed people are, the better we will be at being good
lepperochan said:controlled, I'd say. what with everything and such. you may protest and deny, but its futile to do either. every thing has you. trafic lights only have to change colour ffs ..money, stuff, more stuff
identity card, driving card, passport, trade card, bank card etc
not to mention tv , ok I'll mention it. ..tv.
work, tax, car, insurance, other stuff, even more stuff
Social media,
you feel how they want you to feel. well done everybody. they want you to feel proud.
humanity ha, don't make me laugh. farmers destroyed humanity way back when the first farmers started farming
after that: pft the beckon hand of kings and queens, of Gods and rockstars, and footballers who cry when they lose
humanity was sold for lots of corn n shit.
Yes, I agree!
"Controlled"
Very...
Because it is in our nature of greed...
Democracy supposedly meant for
"the people" to rule,
but in reality , I feel it is to contain from our own greed to overpower..
yet the riches possess such
Monarchy...
meant for a "righteous" king to rule over for justice
yet soon generations evolve and become corrupt...
These words to describe the human ...
Thank you for your deep response.
identity card, driving card, passport, trade card, bank card etc
not to mention tv , ok I'll mention it. ..tv.
work, tax, car, insurance, other stuff, even more stuff
Social media,
you feel how they want you to feel. well done everybody. they want you to feel proud.
humanity ha, don't make me laugh. farmers destroyed humanity way back when the first farmers started farming
after that: pft the beckon hand of kings and queens, of Gods and rockstars, and footballers who cry when they lose
humanity was sold for lots of corn n shit.
Yes, I agree!
"Controlled"
Very...
Because it is in our nature of greed...
Democracy supposedly meant for
"the people" to rule,
but in reality , I feel it is to contain from our own greed to overpower..
yet the riches possess such
Monarchy...
meant for a "righteous" king to rule over for justice
yet soon generations evolve and become corrupt...
These words to describe the human ...
Thank you for your deep response.
runeaxxe said:The concepts of "good" and "bad" do not technically exist. A politician may do something they view as being "good", while some citizens may view it as "bad". A person who wins the lottery may find the sudden influx of money to be good, but over time, that money may cause legal or personal problems. Good and bad are all about perception. Nothing is good or bad for everyone.
Hmm... it is interesting how you said that!
I was thinking the similar thing...
I was just curious of what others response would be..
to be open to others' views and understand thoughts to develop my own..
I felt that it is only "self" that is in our nature..
We develop ways to please ourselves (weather others may call it good or bad, selfish or self-caring)
The outsiders then observe the actions of those people, then choose to call it good or bad..
Nature... hmm
Hmm... it is interesting how you said that!
I was thinking the similar thing...
I was just curious of what others response would be..
to be open to others' views and understand thoughts to develop my own..
I felt that it is only "self" that is in our nature..
We develop ways to please ourselves (weather others may call it good or bad, selfish or self-caring)
The outsiders then observe the actions of those people, then choose to call it good or bad..
Nature... hmm
I see... ignorance puts us at blank slate....
which allows us to act our nature "self"
to get rid of fear from that ignorance... because "fear" is what worries us of our saftey
the Survival...
Forms of government used to contain those ignorant people to "lay low"
while the ones with knowledge...
choose either to do things that "helps" others
or much more for self... such as in power...
self-assurance
to live...
hmm.... intriguing! Thank you all for your wonderful responses!
which allows us to act our nature "self"
to get rid of fear from that ignorance... because "fear" is what worries us of our saftey
the Survival...
Forms of government used to contain those ignorant people to "lay low"
while the ones with knowledge...
choose either to do things that "helps" others
or much more for self... such as in power...
self-assurance
to live...
hmm.... intriguing! Thank you all for your wonderful responses!
I don't really buy into this moral relativism... that is, I believe 'good' and 'bad' (or preferably 'evil') are distinctly real, and not mere unfounded concepts as the social constructionists would have us believe.
The way I see it, humanity is made up of individuals, all individually capable for 'good' and 'evil'... not that there are 'evil people' and 'good people', rather, that this binary exists within all people, and that no one is above it. The question is how do we curtail the extremes of evil, and promote that which is good. I would say that the idea of 'Truth' is one way... that we should hold truth as the highest value, however, the kind of moral relativists who deny the existence of good and evil, also therefor, deny the existence of truth too. It's an ideology of futility and nihilism.
I also find the idea that the development of agriculture was somehow the point at which humanity became capable of evil. This seems unfounded... where hunter gatherers not extremely violent towards other tribes (other groups of human beings), rapine and cannibalistic in many cases? The notion that agriculture correlated to increased proclivity to evil just seems untrue.
Yes, evil exists today, it exists within is all, no matter how much we may deny it.
The way I see it, humanity is made up of individuals, all individually capable for 'good' and 'evil'... not that there are 'evil people' and 'good people', rather, that this binary exists within all people, and that no one is above it. The question is how do we curtail the extremes of evil, and promote that which is good. I would say that the idea of 'Truth' is one way... that we should hold truth as the highest value, however, the kind of moral relativists who deny the existence of good and evil, also therefor, deny the existence of truth too. It's an ideology of futility and nihilism.
I also find the idea that the development of agriculture was somehow the point at which humanity became capable of evil. This seems unfounded... where hunter gatherers not extremely violent towards other tribes (other groups of human beings), rapine and cannibalistic in many cases? The notion that agriculture correlated to increased proclivity to evil just seems untrue.
Yes, evil exists today, it exists within is all, no matter how much we may deny it.
