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What separates a good erotic poem from a shitty porn poem?

AscheZuAsche
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Almost all I see in the erotic poems sections is crass (and poorly written, if I do say so myself) "poetry" about sex. Has no one any taste? Please tell me there are some elegant ones? I mean, written well enough to not make me assume it was written by a horny teenager. And is an erotica considered separate from such things? I mean, if it's good, it's erotica, but if it's crass, it's porno poetry... right? Or wrong? I am lost. .-.

JohnFeddeler
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it's in the style, the presentation, the phrasing. you can write sensual poetry without using the buzz words, which reduces it to porn. I've done it both ways, sometimes the explicit passages are necessary, for the impact of the poem.

I've found some skillfully written erotica here...


poet Anonymous

Read Lecolonel, he is my favorite erotic writer. Just a suggestion.

Tacete
who-isthe-silence
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It's quite simple really.. only subtety.

snugglebuck
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Sex is multidimensional in both inspiration, and execution.  Sometimes it evolves from erotic romance,  Other times, it is, by its very nature, a crass compulsive, 'let's do it like wild animals,' physical act.  

During the wonders of my youth, I was often game to take in a double-feature.  First, slow and romantic, then after a pause and mutual massage, we'd get down on all four's and do it like dogs. Going at it as if screwing were an Olympic event, till we both collapsed upon each other, into a damp pile of wonderful bliss.

Those were the days.

In poetic sincerity, we as poets need to publicly express the different personalities that make up our inner beast. Not try to fold and mold natural desires to fit a certain pigeonhole.

So what can I say?

In my poetry, as in my love life; sometimes you get to spoon and snuggle, other times you get it rough from a buck in rut.

"Sorry for the honesty, AscheZuAsche!"

LobodeSanPedro
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Erotica is textured and layered ... There's a build up of the moment and a sense of anticipation.  A good or even great erotica  piece deftly places it's readers in unusual places or situations through it's characters furthering a sense of urgency and taps on (or even introduces) a deep seeded fantasy of the reader.   Erotica is remembered, porn is jack off material for the moment if it can even muster that much engagement.

Indie
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Erotica is art, and good erotica should create both a physical and emotional response in the reader, as well as being tasteful, evocative and multidimensional, while still being able to push the boundaries of reality and fantasy, love and lust, and everything in between.

poet Anonymous

sex, just like art/poetry/anything creative is multidimensional AND it depends on the day. ha! i would say that 75% of the poems i publish here are in the erotic category, but some of them are porn pieces. not sure why i would separate them, but i do. sometimes i need the slow build up, the aloof sexuality of not using crass words, but sometimes...dear god i need to say what is in my head and that includes words that are not elegant.

there are very talented erotic writers here. you just have to sift through them.  

lepperochan
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I think it's about intent, what do I wan to say, how will i say it, though I don't really venture into erotica because it's hard to get the balance right:

an orchestra of black candles
cast a soft pastel glow
that played a love song upon her skin
where light and shadoe danced
around the ribbed remnants of play
that gave her bracelets to keep


I've see a fair amount of poets here that can pull it off with ease.    

Zazzles
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Agreed, erotica takes a special kind of skill to write. I mean, but If you're a grand story teller to begin with then it should be a snap to pull off erotica. I am still learning... Crimson is one of the best ertoic wtiters on this site, and it's not only her pornicopia and lust and darkness but also her ability to get the reader to visually see and feel every word she leaves in red...

Magnetron
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It can be crass to downright silly yet still be written well. And serious attempts to create erotica fall short of the mark. But the real problem lies in having a one size fits all category.

With more categories, you would get feedback similar to, You shoulda posted this in the "Dirty Diddies" instead of "Erotic Poems" because it is to corny and pornish.

Magnetron
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snugglebuck said:
During the wonders of my youth,
I was often game to take in a double-feature.
First, slow and romantic,
then after a pause and mutual massage,
we'd get down on all four's
and do it like dogs.
Going at it as if screwing were an Olympic event,
till we both collapsed upon each other,
into a damp pile of wonderful bliss.

Those were the days.


Now give it a title and go submit.

poet Anonymous

i also think it makes no difference what language you use. being crass and pornish doesn't mean that something isn't written well.

Magdalena
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AscheZuAsche said: Almost all I see in the erotic poems sections is crass (and poorly written, if I do say so myself) "poetry" about sex. Has no one any taste? Please tell me there are some elegant ones? I mean, written well enough to not make me assume it was written by a horny teenager. And is an erotica considered separate from such things? I mean, if it's good, it's erotica, but if it's crass, it's porno poetry... right? Or wrong? I am lost. .-.

1.  It says you are 16 and therefore you shouldn't be reading the 18 or over erotica section  Age may not always reflect on experience, but.

2. One needs more time to sift through the gazillion erotic poems here before one finds the gems beneath the crass.

3.  One shouldn't make assumptions (whether about taste or horny teenagers or otherwise)

4.  How about acknowledging the time and effort members here have made, replying to your question... when you have time.


Respectfully
Me.

poet Anonymous

Iz dis question fer reel ore R U just trying' tew gett off??

Duz itt reely hafta bee xplayned inn vivid detale? Lol.


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