can you name one god given right
Anonymous
In Alabama a state judge is not following a federal law because religion.
it isn't allowing several people to get marriage licenses and is utterly stupid.
it isn't allowing several people to get marriage licenses and is utterly stupid.
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It actually seems as though a 'god given right' is a right exercised even if other people do not agree with it. So basically a god given right is: being a dick or prick or idiot or arsehole. This is not natural human stupidity, but stupidity and ignorance because it is connected to doing what you want.
So sounds like the state judge may be exercising his god given right?
So sounds like the state judge may be exercising his god given right?
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ok, who are you and what have you done with Lord Viddax ?
also, thank you all for your thoughts. all interesting and varied thus far
also, thank you all for your thoughts. all interesting and varied thus far
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lepperochan said:ok, who are you and what have you done with Lord Viddax ?
also, thank you all for your thoughts. all interesting and varied thus far
Of all the things you could say or reply with, I did not expect that. Or was it because I swore and used very informal language? Either way there be more to than the eye can see, said the man behind the mask to the all-seeing eyes.
also, thank you all for your thoughts. all interesting and varied thus far
Of all the things you could say or reply with, I did not expect that. Or was it because I swore and used very informal language? Either way there be more to than the eye can see, said the man behind the mask to the all-seeing eyes.
Anonymous
Eye kann nayme moor den won godd givinn ryte. Eye kan nayme tew.
Here goes:
1)breetheeng
und
2)poopin'
rm
Here goes:
1)breetheeng
und
2)poopin'
rm
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Well that depends on whether or not you believe in theology. Even so, would you say that a "God given right" equates to an inherent right? a natural right? Or is this purely a right given to man by a God?
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alright then, let's assume that god is anything you want it to be. it's probably reasonable to assume, in any context, that it has dominion over the universe. it strikes me that the universe is driven by laws rather than rights. god commanded there should be light, though we do not have the right to light.
rights are one of the biggest wrongs we welcomed with open arms. basic rights are five for a pound down the eurosaver
rights are one of the biggest wrongs we welcomed with open arms. basic rights are five for a pound down the eurosaver
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The ability to imagine a better place no one can take this from us
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If it is the Devil who gives you critical thinking, self dependence, knowledge of good and evil, and the power to be ruled only by yourself, and God is the one who forces you under his own laws, into obedience and submission, in unawareness, and in eternal threat of punishment, who is the one you really need to be saved from?
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Spike said:If it is the Devil who gives you critical thinking, self dependence, knowledge of good and evil, and the power to be ruled only by yourself, and God is the one who forces you under his own laws, into obedience and submission, in unawareness, and in eternal threat of punishment, who is the one you really need to be saved from?
The Devil is surely the one who decieves you, not just morally as inkeeping with Christian belief, but also of the world and of reality as inkeeping with Descartes' view.
Besides critical thinking is partially inherent, partially learnt. Self dependence is achievable but somewhat difficult and requires sacrifice. Good and Evil is somewhat subjective, and not the whole picture. And self-rule is an illusion, even the laws of time and gravity which rule you, go full-bender when a black hole pops in to say hi.
Sorry to burst your mephistophelian bubble, but there are bubbles to have, even bubbles to go beyond....
The Devil is surely the one who decieves you, not just morally as inkeeping with Christian belief, but also of the world and of reality as inkeeping with Descartes' view.
Besides critical thinking is partially inherent, partially learnt. Self dependence is achievable but somewhat difficult and requires sacrifice. Good and Evil is somewhat subjective, and not the whole picture. And self-rule is an illusion, even the laws of time and gravity which rule you, go full-bender when a black hole pops in to say hi.
Sorry to burst your mephistophelian bubble, but there are bubbles to have, even bubbles to go beyond....
Anonymous
whut 'bout sirvyval uvda phittist? Dey kann tayke aweigh evryting!
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You get what you give and vice versa, 'God' has nothing to do with it.
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Rights are given and taken away in context of the society. It depends if the action of one will be backed up by the many.
Take a community on the planet Mars. Say they survive the trip, but agree that resources are enough so long as no one gets pregnant, it sounds reasonable under such extreme circumstances, to collectively decide something that back on Earth would be unacceptable.
The right to reproduce on Earth becomes the flip side on the right to survival on Mars. Either way, if someone got pregnant, and the group gathered to discuss it, even that discussion, which would be mostly deemed as intrusive on Earth, would be expected on Mars.
The right to reproduce vs the right to survive – whichever right the groups backs, that would be the right available to someone on Mars. People cannot exist in a bubble, even though they like to pretend that they do. Like it or not, each of us depends on the society in which we live.
You wanna go grow and hunt your own food in the woods? Go ahead, you'll be fine until you get sick and need a doctor, or a dentist. Or maybe a ballon animal professional.
God did not give rights. To figure out what God gave, we would have to decipher intentions. That is a whole other discussion, but my two cents is love and abundance, and the lack of both is due to human behavior, not punishment from some god. In fact, screaming about rights is a symptom of one party imposing its will on another, which is neither loving nor abundant.
Back to Mars – the group could agree not to get pregnant, or someone rebels, but neither is the answer. Love says if someone wants a kid, stay on Earth where the kid gets a fighting chance to live.
Take a community on the planet Mars. Say they survive the trip, but agree that resources are enough so long as no one gets pregnant, it sounds reasonable under such extreme circumstances, to collectively decide something that back on Earth would be unacceptable.
The right to reproduce on Earth becomes the flip side on the right to survival on Mars. Either way, if someone got pregnant, and the group gathered to discuss it, even that discussion, which would be mostly deemed as intrusive on Earth, would be expected on Mars.
The right to reproduce vs the right to survive – whichever right the groups backs, that would be the right available to someone on Mars. People cannot exist in a bubble, even though they like to pretend that they do. Like it or not, each of us depends on the society in which we live.
You wanna go grow and hunt your own food in the woods? Go ahead, you'll be fine until you get sick and need a doctor, or a dentist. Or maybe a ballon animal professional.
God did not give rights. To figure out what God gave, we would have to decipher intentions. That is a whole other discussion, but my two cents is love and abundance, and the lack of both is due to human behavior, not punishment from some god. In fact, screaming about rights is a symptom of one party imposing its will on another, which is neither loving nor abundant.
Back to Mars – the group could agree not to get pregnant, or someone rebels, but neither is the answer. Love says if someone wants a kid, stay on Earth where the kid gets a fighting chance to live.
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Okay, so this thread needs to be REPORTED with a WARNING to go SMOKE a JOINT before you start SCREWING with people's MINDS when they read about the GOD GIVEN RIGHT to BREED on MARS.
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