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What determines: Coincidence vs Fate
we can measure coincidence to a degree through probability models, but you can't measure fate.
The problem with determinism is it becomes heavily integrated with the experience of apophenia, making distinct connections to points of information that otherwise have no apparent relation.
If all events that intersect at a given moment is predetermined, we should be able to identify and measure something about it. We live in an observable reality.
The problem with determinism is it becomes heavily integrated with the experience of apophenia, making distinct connections to points of information that otherwise have no apparent relation.
If all events that intersect at a given moment is predetermined, we should be able to identify and measure something about it. We live in an observable reality.
fiveamtuesday said:we can measure coincidence to a degree through probability models, but you can't measure fate.
The problem with determinism is it becomes heavily integrated with the experience of apophenia, making distinct connections to points of information that otherwise have no apparent relation.
If all events that intersect at a given moment is predetermined, we should be able to identify and measure something about it. We live in an observable reality.
And what you've just shared is the only reason I choose to stay alive.
The problem with determinism is it becomes heavily integrated with the experience of apophenia, making distinct connections to points of information that otherwise have no apparent relation.
If all events that intersect at a given moment is predetermined, we should be able to identify and measure something about it. We live in an observable reality.
And what you've just shared is the only reason I choose to stay alive.
Coincidence and determinism makes the atoms move the way they do, while a being's fate can be changed in order to make the whole move a slightly different way.
Coincidence moves people so they cross paths, fate and self-made fate at that leads to how they will then act once their paths meet.
You can calculate a person's path to water, but you cannot fully understand how they think.
Coincidence moves people so they cross paths, fate and self-made fate at that leads to how they will then act once their paths meet.
You can calculate a person's path to water, but you cannot fully understand how they think.
Honestly, I've always believed it was up to whether or not there was/is a Creator and the qualities of that Creator.
If we take the Judeo/Christian God I do not believe that Free Will is possible. The qualities of their god are incompatible with the existence of Free Will.
If you take the God of Hinduism then Free Will is possible as that is what makes the Karma system possible. The qualities of that God are different from the other.
Without any Creator altogether all you have is coincidence
If we take the Judeo/Christian God I do not believe that Free Will is possible. The qualities of their god are incompatible with the existence of Free Will.
If you take the God of Hinduism then Free Will is possible as that is what makes the Karma system possible. The qualities of that God are different from the other.
Without any Creator altogether all you have is coincidence
Godincidence.
Everything that happens is fate but subjectively everything that happens outside myself is going to be fatedepending on what I choose to do. That's asuming I'm a little piece of everything, God. Also that there is reason to everything.
Everything that happens is fate but subjectively everything that happens outside myself is going to be fatedepending on what I choose to do. That's asuming I'm a little piece of everything, God. Also that there is reason to everything.
To loosely quote the oracle, "You've already made the choice. Your here to understand why you made it." lol, But in reality I like to believe that life is full of possibilities and free will allows us to choose which path we want to go down and how far we want to go down it, before we branch off.
yeah... maybe im to much of a realist for poetry...
if fates real some people are then fated to be evil.
i for one know for a fact that i have the total option of good or evil.
i can be greedy, or i can be charitable.
i can be murderous, or i can be lifegiving and friendly... etc.
with anything else other than fate/gods plan/etc. at least we still have the option of good or evil and arent just pawns in a playing field.
i go with coincidence %100 no matter how damning the evidence for divine intervention may seem.
MHO its just us, our decisions and our duty to make this world a better place for each other.
either we build it up, or we burn it down... fate be damned. its our choice.
if fates real some people are then fated to be evil.
i for one know for a fact that i have the total option of good or evil.
i can be greedy, or i can be charitable.
i can be murderous, or i can be lifegiving and friendly... etc.
with anything else other than fate/gods plan/etc. at least we still have the option of good or evil and arent just pawns in a playing field.
i go with coincidence %100 no matter how damning the evidence for divine intervention may seem.
MHO its just us, our decisions and our duty to make this world a better place for each other.
either we build it up, or we burn it down... fate be damned. its our choice.
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There are many theories about both whether they are mutually inclusive or exclusive. In the absence of logical explanation a situation ends up being labeled as such.
But in my opinion, coincidences are nothing more than perfectly timed opportunities which are present at any given time. Available to each and every one of us up for grabs but if perception is not present they become nothing but missed chances.
Then one might ask, what is a chance or luck? Are some people born lucky and other's aren't? To some degree some are born where things naturally happen easier for them and most studies point that it depends how a person translates events in life with pessimistic and optimistic personalities.
I do believe that there is some amount of fate/destiny programmed in every one of us manipulated slightly by circumstances outside of our power such as our environment. Although, we do have the power to control our fate/destiny to some degree and again for that to happen higher degree of awareness and perception need to be present.
But in my opinion, coincidences are nothing more than perfectly timed opportunities which are present at any given time. Available to each and every one of us up for grabs but if perception is not present they become nothing but missed chances.
Then one might ask, what is a chance or luck? Are some people born lucky and other's aren't? To some degree some are born where things naturally happen easier for them and most studies point that it depends how a person translates events in life with pessimistic and optimistic personalities.
I do believe that there is some amount of fate/destiny programmed in every one of us manipulated slightly by circumstances outside of our power such as our environment. Although, we do have the power to control our fate/destiny to some degree and again for that to happen higher degree of awareness and perception need to be present.
both coincidence and fate use time, they use perfect timing down to the exact second. coincidence I find to be mechanical whereas fate is magical. coincidences can be important and noticeable but fate is life altering and mind blowing, even when sublime and silent. fate gets under your DNA and changes it, whereas coincidence only gets your attention. coincidence tackles you but lets you live to play another pass, fate changes the game, we no longer playing football with men, we playing with gods and angels.
