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Allen_crown
Twisted Dreamer
Netherlands
Joined 14th July 2013
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Why is it, that man is so Interested in basic human functions.
Why is it, that we are so obsessed with our own biology.
Obsessed with mating.
To the point that even on a website for intellectual gathering and poetry.
A poem with the word boobs in the title alone, can generate 111views in 2 days.
While masterpieces I have poured my heart and soul into, get neglected and forgotten.

If you hadn't guessed it, I am the writer of "Teenage girl shows her boobs" and some of you have been trolled by my poem.
I plea here for you, to please step forward and explain your actions. (because I'm bored mostly.)

poet Anonymous

Understand something, when someone clicks "read full poem" that automatically counts as 1 read to your poem's total reads. That doesn't mean that the person actually read the poem, it just means that what they saw in the preview interested his/her enough to see the rest of the poem. Again, it doesn't mean the person read the full piece.  EC or extreme content poems automatically peak a reader's interest on this site because it makes us wonder what the poet actually wrote to qualify as EC. In terms of sex, unless one is asexual (which you will not find on this site), EC erotic poetry is interesting, and I do wonder myself and click on EC erotic poetry. As poets, we appreciate the art of other's poetic genius. So, you ask why the poem "Teenage girl..." received so many views, because it was EC erotic poetry and the reader wondered what you wrote that qualified to be EC erotic poetry. Now, I just read your poem ("Teenage girl..."), it essentially highlights the points you have made in your statements above, but in a more harsh and judgmental tone (my interpretation). Listen, please, some members are "writers who put literature to shame. Who use dirty words to get some attention." That's unfortunate, but it DOES NOT represent the general cohort of poets on this site, or at least those I have encountered. Also understand yes, those writers do use dirty words that create "poetry" and label them EC. We view them to see what they wrote, but once we realize the poem is BS, then we don't finish reading and don't give that poet attention any more. "Teenage girl..." is a poem that insults (or at least I was insulted) members of this site by branding us as people that we are not...in a general sense. I looked at your poetry and clicked on "read poems by author." Your EC poems have the most reads and most of the others are below 50 reads. I also saw that you only have 44 comments and 14 forum posts no trophies. I joined the same exact day as you and (I don't mean to brag) I have 6 trophies, 615 comments and 403 forum posts and have written 133 poems. If you look at my first few poems to my most recent, you will see a dramatic change. I have more reads on my poems (some of which are not EC) and more comments and more likes on my recent poems than my first published pieces. This is because as time went one, I commented on other poet's work, participated in form discussions/poetry competitions, sent personal PMs or personal messages to other poets...I made myself known on this site. My friend MourningCloak (a member of this site) told me great advice when I asked her why I wasn't receiving as much attentions as I desired. She said to get a little I had to give a little. So, the more I participated in forums/competitions and commented on other poets work, the more I made myself known thus making other members want to know more about me. They viewed my profile and thus read my poetry and thus commented on my poetry. Now, back to EC erotic poetry that you condemn as "writers who put literature to shame. Who use dirty words to get some attention." Read EC erotic poetry by RainC or Gypsy Red or Vee. They use dirty words, but cleverly and they DO NOT put literature to shame. I must admit my EC erotic poetry is a little immature with its diction, but, my other poems, especially my dark ones, are popular and I am proud of them and they do not put literature to shame. Sorry for rambling, I hope my response helps and now, I am going to read a poem of yours...nice to meet you Allen_crown, I am sw9618. PM with any questions, comments, or concerns.

johnrot
Tyrant of Words
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better when not strong arming or payin a couple zoos for it in prison......

but you always pay for it some how.......

ShadowsandWind
Twisted Dreamer
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Joined 10th Aug 2010
Forum Posts: 86

quit bein a bitch lol

Allen_crown
Twisted Dreamer
Netherlands
Joined 14th July 2013
Forum Posts: 25

Thanks sw9618, that was awesome.
I loved reading your response.
I know I might have sounded whiny to some, I get that a lot.
But notice that  "writers who put literature to shame. Who use dirty words to get some attention."
Also applies to yours truly.
It is as much seriousness as it is a joke, that simultaneously directs the double edged sword at myself.

RainC or Gypsy Red or Vee.
I will look up these recommendations of yours as well as read some of your work. (of course)

Also, did I just see someone brag that they wrote a "Thesis that scientifically proves the existence of vampirism"? Either someone is taking, "scientific proof", a tad bit liberal or someone needs a good shrink.

patrickbirdener
Patrick Birdener
Thought Provoker
United States
Joined 8th Feb 2010
Forum Posts: 56

ok, allen crown, i'd say it's because it's a part of the continuation of the species--an integral part.  if it wans't, it wouldn't naturally be so pleasant or so painful to humankind.















now, why exactly do you have to ask?

Tacete
who-isthe-silence
Twisted Dreamer
Australia 1awards
Joined 24th Nov 2013
Forum Posts: 205

What constitutes a masterpiece? Surely not any of our misinterpretations of writing poetry.....

Magdalena
Spartalena
Tyrant of Words
Wales 62awards
Joined 21st Apr 2012
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Allen_crown said:Why is it, that man is so Interested in basic human functions.
Why is it, that we are so obsessed with our own biology.
Obsessed with mating.
To the point that even on a website for intellectual gathering and poetry.
A poem with the word boobs in the title alone, can generate 111views in 2 days.
While masterpieces I have poured my heart and soul into, get neglected and forgotten.

If you hadn't guessed it, I am the writer of "Teenage girl shows her boobs" and some of you have been trolled by my poem.
I plea here for you, to please step forward and explain your actions. (because I'm bored mostly.)




I've not read your poem or been trolled by it.  I write erotica but I'm not obsessed with it or with mating, albeit "some" are but not "all"
I believe more views on the erotic genre come from non-members (more than likely people browsing erotica in general being directed here via google)

The way to attract the readers you are wanting, is to find like writers, read their work and leave a comment and then there is a chance they will read and comment on your "masterpieces"

There are countless threads on this topic.




poet Anonymous

Ehm...How many DUP poets come from facebook?
I'm inclined to believe that much of the attention a poet receives here comes from facebook followers, not just google.

(My short-lived facebook account was deactivated years ago. No plans to ever revive it.)

Magdalena
Spartalena
Tyrant of Words
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Forum Posts: 2993

Followers on poetry may come from FB as well as google, but I am referring to views on the erotic genre.

Grace
IDryad
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Joined 25th Aug 2011
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Allen_crown said:Why is it, that man is so Interested in basic human functions.
Why is it, that we are so obsessed with our own biology.
Obsessed with mating.
To the point that even on a website for intellectual gathering and poetry.
A poem with the word boobs in the title alone, can generate 111views in 2 days.
While masterpieces I have poured my heart and soul into, get neglected and forgotten.

If you hadn't guessed it, I am the writer of "Teenage girl shows her boobs" and some of you have been trolled by my poem.
I plea here for you, to please step forward and explain your actions. (because I'm bored mostly.)


I read it to find out if it merits EC or Normal. I am neither impressed nor obsessed, and I have written erotica too. Not too good, but readable. Maybe those who viewed you like that genre of poetry. Or curious because of the topic. At least you were read.

poet Anonymous

Mag and Grace essentially highlighted the points I was making, DUP is a site in which participation and kindness are keys to succeed.

poet Anonymous

Allen_crown said:Why is it, that man is so Interested in basic human functions.
Why is it, that we are so obsessed with our own biology.
Obsessed with mating.
To the point that even on a website for intellectual gathering and poetry.
A poem with the word boobs in the title alone, can generate 111views in 2 days.
While masterpieces I have poured my heart and soul into, get neglected and forgotten.

If you hadn't guessed it, I am the writer of "Teenage girl shows her boobs" and some of you have been trolled by my poem.
I plea here for you, to please step forward and explain your actions. (because I'm bored mostly.)


Allen, I'll be surprised if anyone gives you an honest answer in defense to your last question, if they feel "trolled"/targeted (offended)by your poem. More likely those kind will jump on you with personal attacks. (Just block them if they do.)

I once posted erotica titled "The Dirty Part" and marked it extreme content.

"Roses are red.
My tongue is too.
Tongue in tight rosebud,
I drool for you.

:P~  Admit it; You read only for the dirty parts."

No, it wasn't extreme; It was a joke, a test to see if anyone peeked behind the curtain and reacted.
In less than two days, it rec'd 200 views.  No comments. Go figure.

Now when I post rare erotica, if it hits a view of 100 and has no comments, I usually delete it. Overexposure and no feedback is not a good sign. You might want to google those erotic poems of yours to see if the lines appear elsewhere on the internet, because silent viewers do plagiarize, even the simplest of poems.






BigVirge
Big Virge
Fire of Insight
Barbados 1awards
Joined 15th Oct 2012
Forum Posts: 329

Errrr AC …
Clearly you were joking, when in fact, this IS ... A Serious Issue ... I think ….

Poets & Poetry, whenever I see people performing it now, mostly, have some kind of need to parade their, sexual lusts, losses, fantasies & desires, rather than express themselves through clever, intricate, meaningful lyricism ???

You backed down very quickly ???

Boobs is gonna get attention, because there are a lot of very, let's say, "Needy", people, who write poems etc, so, they are probably the ones getting off on someone else's version of what they are OBSESSED with, not so many of them are writing, because they simply need, to express themselves … BELIEVE IT !!!

I post, Very REAL stuff, mostly, but, as soon as I have posted about sex, oh, amazing, views are high, but, talk about division and it's isms', not only do people, Not Read, all of a sudden, they've got nothing to say…. ???

I find that strange, well, not so much so now, but, yeah, TOO MANY, "Poets", are desecrating this art form, for  … ATTENTION, and some, soft core porn show …. !!!?!!!

As for comments/numbers, with all due respect, peoples' attention spans are limited now, right ?

So, write something, more than a few lines long, you ain't gonna get so many readers, especially if people see that you don't just write short lil' ditty's, generally ….

Who doesn't want, lots of views right ?
… but, i'd rather get someone who reads and REALLY ….
Appreciates what I do, by, not just clicking on, but, by proving it, by commenting, even if it's to say,

I hate your stuff …. !!!!!!

Too much powder puff poetry and commentary, for my liking here, but, I say, keep writing those, "Heart & Soul", pieces, they'll find their way to the people who need & appreciate them !!!

All the best ….

Big V


Viddax
Lord Viddax
Guardian of Shadows
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Joined 10th Oct 2009
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Why is that people seem so suprised that sex sells and that basic biological functions such as mating and eating are appelaing to us?

And why is that the same 'smart' people who work out we can be so much better don't seem to realize that some people are actually better, and that we are complex beings. Complex beings who can both appreciate smut and filth and crude humour but also acutally make the world better or even read or listen or ingest something and not become obsessed and addicted to it.

Wow! Human beings who actually think for themselves. What will they think of next.

My apologies if that was too much aimed directly at you Allen, but the sex sells thread is elsewhere and I wanted to ramble and rant rather than be helpful.

But why troll when you can change?

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